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    • companero [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      And at this point even if they scraped by with a victory.? What’s the historical result.? Even in ereas and eras where it was allowed to.

      There is actually a counter example to this. Venezuela. Hugo Chávez originally believed what you are saying. From his wikipedia article:

      ... Chávez was a supporter of taking military action, believing that the "oligarchy" would never allow him and his supporters to win an election ...

      So he tried a revolution instead... and it failed. He and his comrades got thrown in prison, but were luckily released in an attempt to ease tensions. Then he ran for president and managed to win. He wasn't "soft" like Bernie or Corbyn. He used the power of Venezuela's political system to further cement his socialist government. Chávez died, but the government lives on and is still socialist, much to the US's chagrin.

      Of course, "western" and Latin American countries are very different. Something exactly like this probably couldn't happen in the US or the UK. Still, this story is worth remembering.

    • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Couldn't agree more, electoral politics is just pointless busywork for the left, wasting everyone's time and energy. Capitalism will never allow us to dismantle it from within. I just hope more people start realising it, there still seems to be a lot of terminal electoralism brain on the left in the UK, and most non electoral left wing groups that do exist are varying shades of weird pseudo-reactionaries, ineffective and divided, or 99% undercover cops (as far as I know, would like to be proven wrong)