Same for me honestly. Corbyn, and then Sanders in the span of like 4 months really pushed me towards revolution
The UK and US elections have legitimately made it so that that picture (you know the one) of Lenin makes me anxious and depressed
Did you see that map of voting by age in the UK election? Obvs, labour lost.
But, break it down by age. If only ppl 35 and under voted, Labour would have won all 600 of the seats in parliament.
Like, I have never seen a blowout as massive as that, and it makes me extremely hopeful for the future.
Luckily that cuts both ways, by preventing buy in to the social structure by the young middle-class, they now have 2 generations of rabid lefties.
It's true, young ppl are radicalized af, and we're gonna tear it up in a few short years :red-fist:
Imagine graduating college this summer and trying to start a career. Maybe you take a remote, unpaid internship somewhere. Its all zoom calls and phone calls. Whatever comes after this pandemic is going to be close to economic desolation for so many young people, with nothing better to do than organize, make videos/podcasts, protest and try to figure out ways to change that system.
Yup. Artists have always been denigrated under capitalism for that exact reasons: we're dangerous.
That's a pretty good point. Not gonna say it's a bad thing that people live long, but it's still an interesting point. People live to approximately 66 in currently-existing hunter-gatherer societies, which is also the global average. In rich countries today, of course, the average is ~80.
This surely has some effects when it comes to slowing down change. Which isn't always bad, but might not be great during a time when we need rapid social change.
when you have a bunch of un-self-aware rabidly conformist religion infested morons hostile to the very concept of learning and growth, old age gains them nothing but an accumulation of vices.
Hahahahaha ya. What a miserable, navel-gazing cycle to be trapped in for your whole life. o7's to all the un-self-aware rabidly conformist religion infested morons goin' out in style o7
Here's hoping that today's young people don't vote like old people when they themselves turn old.
Yep, it's not a real thing. Cultures change over time, but people? Not so much.
old people can be pretty cool if they've lived lives comitted to learning and growth and discovery and self improvement. its something very easy to forget when interacting with boomers all fucking day.
oh no, im saying boomers are trash and im very happy they're fucking dying.
but there's hope for us. I remember my silent/greatest generation grandparents who were.... pretty mixed, but sometimes VERY cool in ways I've never seen from a boomer. maybe the secret is killing nazis, and its killing nazis that makes you age well? I dunno. but just to be sure...
No? Just saying that if they were wartime age they would be in the greatest generation
this is true; there may be some cultural spillover from spending so much time around people who killed nazis. which is also good. we need to kill more nazis. for science.
Ya I'm onboard with you there, my grandparents were silent generation and mostly cool so it's worth a shot
And at this point even if they scraped by with a victory.? What’s the historical result.? Even in ereas and eras where it was allowed to.
There is actually a counter example to this. Venezuela. Hugo Chávez originally believed what you are saying. From his wikipedia article:
... Chávez was a supporter of taking military action, believing that the "oligarchy" would never allow him and his supporters to win an election ...
So he tried a revolution instead... and it failed. He and his comrades got thrown in prison, but were luckily released in an attempt to ease tensions. Then he ran for president and managed to win. He wasn't "soft" like Bernie or Corbyn. He used the power of Venezuela's political system to further cement his socialist government. Chávez died, but the government lives on and is still socialist, much to the US's chagrin.
Of course, "western" and Latin American countries are very different. Something exactly like this probably couldn't happen in the US or the UK. Still, this story is worth remembering.
Couldn't agree more, electoral politics is just pointless busywork for the left, wasting everyone's time and energy. Capitalism will never allow us to dismantle it from within. I just hope more people start realising it, there still seems to be a lot of terminal electoralism brain on the left in the UK, and most non electoral left wing groups that do exist are varying shades of weird pseudo-reactionaries, ineffective and divided, or 99% undercover cops (as far as I know, would like to be proven wrong)
If only he spent less of his campaign hating ((((((THE JUICE))))))
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Petition for an :israelkkk: emoji needs to be made
That was his appeal and it almost worked in 2017. A genuine socialist (who believes in common ownership) and an internationalist got 40% of the vote in a wealthy, imperialist and racist country in the 21st century.
It’s easy to criticise him now in retrospect.
Yeah it sucks to think about but even if Corbyn had won, the entire British establishment would have crashed the country with no survivors in order to make his Government look evil/incompetent
