ISRAEL DOES NOT NEED TO SUPPLY GAZA WITH THESE RESOURCES
Actually they do under international law! Interesting how Israel supporters seem to think following international law is optional for their favourite genocidal apartheid state!
asking the UN: "do I really have to supply water and electricity to my concentration camp?"
I guarantee you she just straight up doesn't know that Israel controls Gaza by land, sea, and air, and controls all of its resources. the moron actually thinks Israel gives Gaza all this stuff out of the goodness of their hearts or something.
If the people in Dachau didn't like Zyklon B, why didn't they provide their own showers?
Today on "Celebrities who pretend to understand geopolitics and publicly lambast those who actually do".
I would tell her to just stick to comedy but she's not good at that either.
They do the same when the 'baddie' journalists/propagandists get targeted and/or otherwise killed.
Israel legally prohibits Gaza from building any water infrastructure without a permit, which must be granted by Israel and almost never is. Additionally, the IDF routinely destroys infrastructure of all kinds in Gaza as a matter of deliberate policy.
It sure would be cool if these obvious, clearly written out facts ever came up in the discussion from the "reasonable practical adults in the room" instead of Palestinians just being a bunch of genetic terrorists.
Like how the idf stated they were going to bomb that hospital right before the hospital got bombed that now liberals are trying to claim never got bombed.
If it meant avoiding uncomfortable thoughts these ghouls would torture us to death for no reason while lecturing us and never even consider the possibility they weren't perfect moralists.
Hamas Congress sitting around a big table with charts and graphs, trying to allocate for next years budget. There's a pie chart that's like "Water: 0%, Electricity 0%, Food: 0%, Government: 0%, Terrorism: 100%".
Part of becoming an adult has been realizing nearly every celebrity is a horrible person
Some of them are good. Wallace Shawn and Danny DeVito have good politics, and Steve Buscemi was a volunteer firefighter who responded to 9/11. So the short and ugly ones maybe. Got that hobbit energy.
Tim Heidecker seems like a good egg. Mark Ruffalo seems ok as well.
Also weirdly Seth MacFarlane seems ok politically even though his shows are full of racism and transphobia and etc
Re: Seth MacFarlane. I'm sure his animated stuff fits that bill, but "The Orville" is a super progressive show. Last season featured an episode involving gender dysmorphia and essentially trans-rights (in space of course) that was wonderfully done.
It also had a direct comparison of the soviets to the nazis with that, this is just like the molotov ribbentrop, line. MacFarlane probably didn't write it, but his character said it and its his show. I'd love to know what the hell he was thinking on that one.
To preface this, I have no idea who Seth MacFarlane is or what The Orville is so this isn't a defence of anything like that.
MacFarlane might not have much choice. This is the political economic factor that Parenti emphasises in his two books on media.
If there's any kind of board above MacFarlane, it's likely populated by reactionaries who appoint each other. And they'll allow some progressive themes but will insist on balancing out the message. Writers/producers/directors either toe the line or they're dropped or the show is dropped or it's made and never really aired or promoted. However progressive you are, you still end up headbutting the gatekeepers.
It's probably unescapable in capitalist culture. I seen that hundreds of times in books of very varied genres in Poland, author write about something totally unrelated, then boom sudden random jab at communism, then back to the topic, like a fucking commercial in TV. It have no sense whatsoever in most cases but is so incredibly common that it has to be some editorial tip for having your book published easier.
Yeah The Orville is surprisingly good and the third season is basically like a a space war for trans rights
I don't remember where but I read Mark Ruffalo's brother was killed by the CIA and I choose to believe that
Part of this realization goes in hand with the recognition that, overwhelmingly, nearly anyone who is anyone in media is related to someone rich and powerful.
I don't even mean kids of movie stars or record producers cause that's just the standard nepotism everyone knows about. I mean like a ton of famous people are at most one familial step removed from an influential political actor or business magnate who helped fund their career pursuit in some fashion. There's definitely exceptions and you can find some with good politics regardless but it's pretty wild to realize how much of our media is created by rich failsons.
Yeah this has been a realization too. Nearly everyone famous is some rich person's nephew or daughter. It's all a big country club.
We play a game at home when watching stuff where we will google actors in the thing we're watching to see what their background is, and almost 99% of the time they come from a background like you mentioned.
A horrible system promotes horrible people to its top.
The more famous the comedian, the more they reflect mainstream ideology. Look no further than the popular comedian of the moment to understand where the public mindset is. I wouldn’t be surprised if we get more Jeff-Dunham-racist-puppet acts soon.
I think it's fun to contrast people like Tom Segura and Bill Burr. Tom for a long time had this outward appearance of a typical lib, riding the lines on acceptable speech. Bill for a long time had this outward appearance of an angry straight, white, male, capturing a similar audience to someone like Andrew Dice Clay. Now, Tom's persona is full-on rich boy prick status, with direct disdain for the poor. Whereas now, Bill's persona (especially if you listen to his podcast) is way more "woke" and left-leaning than he ever was. The SWM audience is still there and periodically writes into his podcast only to be laughed at by Bill for being misogynistic and weird. It's clear he has some level of solidarity with working-class people.
Segura was always a piece of shit in love with himself, Billy blue balls didn't change; the world did.
Comparing Burr to Dice Clay is a level of so completely fucking wrong I didn't even know it existed so kudos I guess for that
Do you really believe in identity politics, and reject materialism so strongly you actually cannot see past "white man" ? You're probably not alone in that I guess.
Comparing Burr to Dice Clay is a level of so completely fucking wrong I didn't even know it existed so kudos I guess for that
The intersection is the Opie and Anthony show. If you were around for that in the late 90's 2000's you'd see the comparison more
Comparing Burr to Dice Clay is a level of so completely fucking wrong I didn’t even know it existed so kudos I guess for that
Andrew Dice Clay might as well have been an "Mens Rights" activist. His material's only goal was to attract as many angry and alienated men and provide them with a "safe space" that reaffirmed their beliefs on WHO was the culprit of their alienation. He got as many laughs as he did men cheering, shouting, and generally expressing anger as a reaction to his jokes.
Bill attracted a similar kind of group, not because he was actively courting them, but because he WAS an angry white dude, and that anger was reflected in his act. His jokes about arguing with girlfriends or his frustration with the social "pass" he perceived women to have resonated with these folks and often it's the only part of the act they recall. Even to this day they still show up in his orbit. In the last couple of episodes of his podcast, a fan wrote in with this long-winded story about his girlfriend and something she did that was driving him crazy, and how she never would hear him out or change her ways. It was clear he was fishing for Bill to tell him he was right, but his only response to the email was "Eh... Maybe you should take a look at yourself here, and figure out why you react that way to what she's doing. Work on your own issues dude."
Do you really believe in identity politics, and reject materialism so strongly you actually cannot see past “white man”? You’re probably not alone in that I guess.
Almost all mainstream comedy is rooted in Identity with rare exceptions. From the Redneck Comedy Tour to Silverman's Jewish comedy, to the comedians with sets about the black experience. The degree to which they lean into their identity might vary from comedian to comedian but it is an ever-constant aspect of comedy. The population by and large is wrapped up in identity politics, so it is no wonder why when a comedian is speaking about their identity it attracts an audience that aligns with it.
The interesting thing with Bill, and he admits this regularly, is that early in his life and career he was very angry, and that anger was misdirected and would manifest in his sets. Over time his sets became less about what he was angry about and more about his anger and where it came from. Along the road of his own self-reflection, his political worldview became more solidified. In recent years his sets have become about putting people in uncomfortable situations and forcing them to laugh at their own contradictions.
So it's not a matter of me "rejecting materialism" or not being able to "see past the white man", materialism isn't always the right lens to look at a given subject. There is a dialectical relationship between a comedian's identity that they project through their set and the demographics that make up their audience. When that identity within their set changes, it can become incongruous with the expectations of the audience if that demographic hasn't shifted along with the identity.
A prime example of this would be the return of Dave Chappelle. His set had no evolution over time, it just had a many-year gap, and when he returned with this wildly different perspective from the one he had when he was younger, most of his audience rejected it. There wasn't a graceful adaptation to this reaction on his part, and now I'm sure the demographic has realigned with his set, but not without much public scrutiny.
I think what makes Bill such a master craftsman is it seems clear to me that he understands this relationship between his comedy and his audience and regularly uses it against them with setups that betray the audience's expectations, which in turn gets a laugh because now the audience is the butt of the joke.
'Spend billions of dollars on terrorism' is such a weird and funny sentence, like Palestinians are budgeting for and paying a Terrorism tax instead of supporting local business. Libs really can't understand how anything gets done outside the framework of money within a capitalist state.
Every time I hear this claim about Hamas spending all of Palestine's money on... uh... jerry-rigged hang gliders and scrap rockets... all I can think of is Felix coming back again and again to Israeli's policy of counting how many calories they let into Gaza, explicitly for the purpose of gradually starving the region's residents
Israel said the blockade was necessary to weaken Hamas. But critics say the blockade constituted collective punishment against Gaza's population of more than 1.5 million.
A US diplomatic cable revealed by WikiLeaks last year quoted Israeli diplomats as saying they wanted to "keep Gaza's economy on the brink of collapse".
Gisha said: "The official goal of the policy was to wage 'economic warfare' which would paralyse Gaza's economy and, according to the defence ministry, create pressure on the Hamas government."
"Why didn't the Palestinians use all that time and energy to do X?" is always stated from this blind - seemingly deliberately blind - refusal to acknowledge how much of Gaza is kept running by the continued miraculous blood and sweet and genius engineering skills of Palestinian prisoners.
If not for these folks working night and day to keep their families and neighbors alive, Gaza would have succumbed to the brutality of the Israeli occupation decades ago. What Sarah is ultimately criticizing isn't Palestine's refusal to build and innovate and capitalize in the face of adversity. What she casually dismisses is their refusal to die. Their refusal not to preserver. Their refusal to surrender to the tanks and the snipers and the bulldozers.
Sarah Silverman wouldn't last five fucking days behind the fences of Gaza. She'd be starving inside of a week, while her neighbors were hustling to enact the kind of IRL prison break her washed up ass would have fucking loved to get a cameo in the epic movie retelling of. She watches Palestinians spin straw into gold and bemoans their lack of entrepreneurship? Absolutely shameless.
"babe, i saw that you were doing the budgeting last night, what do we have in our Terrorism sleeve? billions? Hell yes, i can buy that 4090 founders to play minecraft and then treat myself to terrorism, thanks bae"
To be fair theyre just assuming every other country has a slush fund for terrorists in countries that try to elect leaders they don't agree with like we do.
According to the students on my commute, it’s acutely iran giving russia a favor because actually iran hates hamas because they are sunni!
Hold 2 million people hostage for decades: I sleep.
Take a couple hundred people who are flagrantly violating international law so you can stop being held hostage yourself: real shit.
The people that I have quarantined in a zone which I have complete control over (water, food, passage, electricity) have taken hostages with their terror group so I responded by cutting off resources and bombing them to the stone age, AITA?
Ed: I also may have taken the land around them to make a settlement originally, which contributed to mass exodus and the terror group forming
Ed 2: I may also have been killing innocent people there indiscriminately for decades, including UN correspondents, Red Cross members, and diplomats
Ed 3: I may also have been calling them dehumanizing terms while encouraging inhabitants of my land to steal theirs
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Ed 4: I may also have directly funded and aided Hamas to prevent secular left parties from gaining power
Isreal made it pretty simple: If you all just die, we won't have to kill you anymore.
I don't know why this is so hard for you to understand.
Sarah Silverman has done blackface. Being racist is not a new hat for her.
She's female bill Maher.
She's a "pregoresive" that makes herself unique and interesting by always reverting back to right wing talking points whenever push cones to shove.
Aka a liberal.
Oh wow, not only did she do blackface on her show in 2007, but in 2010 she tweeted a photo of herself in blackface with the caption "I'm having minstrel cramps".
Does Sarah not know that the Israeli hostages have to drink water too?
Seriously, what are the babies you pretend to care about going to drink Sarah?
The babies should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and overthrow Hamas.
Unfortunately for said hostages, the Israeli military as a formal policy (Hannibal doctrine? Or something) which they denied, then leaked verification, considers all captured personnel K.I.A. and has even tried to preemptively kill their own units if it looks like they're going to be taken or overrun.
Kinda paints Adam Sandler's role in You Don't Mess With The Zohan in a very different light
I might be misremembering but I think I learned about this from what I read of World War Z lol. Like something where Israel was extra effective at containing the zombies because of this doctrine? Idr. It was 20 years ago.
Ah nice. Full circle from the fascist, mostly subliminal hinting at acknowledging the very clear and open class war depicted in the classic zombie horror trope, contrasts nicely with the innate horror all working peoples have of wealthy, depraved blood sucking parasites living a life of luxury for them and horror for us
GAZA: Builds power plant Israel: bombs power plant until it can't function
Libs: I just.dont understand why Gaza isn't just building more power plants.
Here is the tweet with all the factually incorrect bits removed:
it's inhumane that Israel is cutting off water/electricity to Gaza. Israel made it pretty simple - Israel inhumane. Hamas didn't spend billions of dollars on terrorismRussia simultaneously so powerful they can cause an undersea pipeline in the most heavily surveiled strech of ocean in the world without a shred of evidence, use Ukrainian missiles to crash into their own high priority targets like civilian residences, completely control the entire internet and all of U.S. politics for the last decade or more, but also is so weak, stupid, poor and inept 50 Russian soldiers charge into tank fire while all sharing the same trench coat and empty rifle with a single rusty bayonet split between them, etc etc etc etc
...but it's everybody else that's brainwashed
You know it's bad when senior democrats and cable TV news lapdogs are like yo wtf why does Biden looks and sounds like a can of brain damaged dogshit? Oh I don't fucking know maybe you cleared the field for the candidate that has already had two hemorrhagic strokes back in the fucking 90s, probably from the nut he bust after the three strikes law he authored passed and then again when he filibuster cheerlead us into Iraq 2.0. No stutter during that fucking speech, warmongering piece of shit
I'm just out here hoping I recognize the nuclear flash in time to enjoy a single moment of pure, unburdened bliss immediately before the electrons flay all the fucking neutrons off my atoms or whatever, you know?
Just once
I'm just out here hoping I recognize the nuclear flash in time to enjoy a single moment of pure, unburdened bliss immediately before the electrons flay all the fucking neutrons off my atoms or whatever, you know?
that half second where you can relax and think "no work tomorrow!"
I'm just out here hoping I recognize the nuclear flash in time to enjoy a single moment of pure, unburdened bliss immediately before the electrons flay all the fucking neutrons off my atoms or whatever, you know?
The person who called Chinese people the slur that starts with C and rhymes with "rink" on TV is racist? No waaaaaayyy...
