"1. Notepad, grey leather cover; 2. Notebook, red leather cover;

Personal notes made on separate sheets and tear-off sheets. Sixty-seven sheets numbered;

Notebook with general notes, red cover;

5 smoking pipes with 4 boxes and special devices for them, tobacco. In the study of Comrade Stalin: books, desk accessories and souvenirs in the comrade Stalin's cabinet are not included.

Bedroom and closet:

2 white coloured tunics (Both have medals "Sickle and Hammer" of the Hero of Socialist Labour attached);

2 grey tunics;

2 dark-green coloured kitels;

10 pants;

...

A savings book was found in the bedroom with 900 rubles written in it."

  • MalarchoBidenism [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This list has to be incomplete, there's no way Stalin didn't own any underwear. So he was just walking around in the cold russian climate protected by a single layer of clothing? I'm supposed to believe that at all times there was just a single thin piece of fabric between Stalin's penis and everything else? So, hypothetically, if someone had pulled down Stalin's pants at the Yalta conference, as a joke, there's a chance Roosevelt would have made direct eye contact with Stalin's hog? There's a chance he would have said "Wow Premier Stalin, that's a nice, firm, cock and balls you got there"? I find that hard to believe.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Concidering how in his youth he survived by essentially couch surfing and selling poetry, I'd say most likely yeah

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          He robbed banks, money convoys, by God he even robbed an Imperial ship. Apparently he sent most of the money to the party after paying his posse and keeping enough to live on till the next heist.

          He was a goddamn Communist Pirate lmao.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              I think a trilogy would be the perfect amount. A tenner would probably be perfect for explaining the rise of the Soviet Union and the historical context it found itself in.

              Like the historical show "Fall of the Eagles" ( the one with :patrick-lenin: in it) but with better budget and materials to teach folks how fucking shit the empires of Europe were

              • Anna_KOC [comrade/them]
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                4 years ago

                And the worst part is that they can't write an original movie in hollywood to save their lives and they can't or won't use any of this actually cool history for a script so they just make endless bad sequels

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      In other news Hitler owned an estimated fortune of five billion dollars.

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Figures. Socialists love to claim they're workers and yet here they are owning billions. We all know that nazis were socialists, it's literally in the name, but the liberals will never admit this 😤

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Funny how the "it's literally in the name!" Bit is never used on the national- part. It's always "you can't compare is to the nazis just because we're nationalists! We're totally different, trust me bro!"

          • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            I know when I was a reactionary I liked the national part of national socialism, I always thought of the nazis as misguided patriots who wanted the best for germany but were done dirty by the evil russians and americans. Honestly surprised I didn't end up becoming nazbol when I did my leftward shift.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Honestly surprised I didn’t end up becoming nazbol when I did my leftward shift.

              Probably because being a nazbol is still a meme ideology mask for fascism lol.

    • EldritchMayo [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Accounting for inflation it’s more like 150 bucks which is still a pretty modest amount to have in a savings account. That’s basing it on US inflation though, I imagine the inflation and purchasing power in Russia is much higher considering the turbulent economy of the 90’s.

    • StLangoustine [any]
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      4 years ago

      Average monthly salary in Soviet Union in 1953 was 684 rubles.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      I heard this from a conversation, so take it with some salt, during the trial Stalin had voted against executing Bukharin and was in favor of simply purging him from the party and hold him under permanent house arrest in exile to allow the old Bolchevik to live his twilight years in peace. But was overruled by the committee and had to live with the knowledge he couldn't save his compatriot

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      probably felt guilty if he kept it. I do understand that the shooting was unnecessary, but I sort of do understand why Stalin was gunning after him. Imagine you're Stalin. You know there are nazi spies and saboteurs, and that Hitler is planning to invade. Then there's Bukharin saying to leave all industry west of Moscow, then it comes out that he was approached by a group who wanted to assassinate Stalin and Lenin over Brest-Litvosk. I know that it was probably blown out of proportion, but I do understand why Stalin was so paranoid and wanted to purge him. but it is up for debate whether he wanted him dead or not

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    i cant respect a man who doesn't own a single tank top, and this guy is supposedly a tankie? smh my head

    • StLangoustine [any]
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      4 years ago

      I don't see 10 pants on the original list. Once again Stalin is being slandered by liberals!

  • Norm_Chumpsky [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Hitler was worth approx 3 Billion when he died, I wonder if there's a correlation?

      • Norm_Chumpsky [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Lots of cash. He made a ton of money on book sales (and after he was in power ordered the govt to buy lots of copies), refused to pay taxes ever, accepted massive bribes from corporations and individuals. Plus all the spoils of looting art etc...

  • DEMIURGE [any]
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    4 years ago

    thanks for the info, never actually knew this

  • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Were any houses he had and his fatigues considered public property?

    • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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      I heard in an unreliable source that he had, or had access to, two dachas. Those are like summer cabins. The ones he used were probably pretty nice, set up for meetings, etc. They were also extremely common for Soviet citizens. Many old people still have them.

      • StLangoustine [any]
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        4 years ago

        Most dachas were basically small plots of land you used as a garden. The majority didn't have houses and if they did those houses were tiny and without electricity or indoor toilet.

        Supposedly this is recently declassified Stalin's dacha near Moscow. Not too lavish as residencies of heads of states go but also not something a Soviet worker could ever have.

        This page has pictures of what it looks like on the inside.

        • VYKNIGHT [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          This is pretty rustic for a head of state, who will definitely need to meet local leaders, new media and diplomats wherever he stays.

        • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I always thought there would typically be some type of shelter/dwelling, but maybe those are just the ones people like to talk about. Thanks for the links. Very interesting.

          • StLangoustine [any]
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            4 years ago

            Most had like a tiny shed for gardening tools. Nevertheless building a house on their dacha called just "building dacha" was the project for many Soviet and post-Soviet people.

            • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              So something like "строить дачу", building as a verb? My Russian is crude, but I try.

              A friend of mine showed me the dacha her parents built. It's basically a picnic pavilion with a couple rooms. No heat or electricity, but it's where they hang out in good weather and eat shaschlik.

        • Anna_KOC [comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          He died in one of them, he didn't permit any servants in his quarters and that delayed someone finding him

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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      From what I recall, a lot of the luxuries that the Presidium and the Politburo of Stalin's time had access to were concidered state property for the common use amongst themselves. Mainly because they followed Lenin's policy of paying bureaucrats very little in order to deincentives people that sought the powers of the state to enrich themselves.

      So like Stalin's car, that his bodyguard told a story about, was actually property of the State, for example.

      • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        If they paid bureaucrats very little, did bureaucrats regularly have to turn to other jobs to get by? Were some of them also workers in other fields?

        • comi [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Nah, it’s not very little it was slightly higher than mean wage, if I remember correctly. Plus like comrade said, apartments were provided by the state, I suspect food as well for higher ups, so like what do you even need money for

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          I couldn't answer that since I haven't come across any primary sources along those lines.

          I do know that they were paid fair living wages since their work was still essential for running the state. Probably not as much as a cabbie, a miner, or an educator but modest pay for their modest work.

          For specifics we'd probably have to break out the books and get a translator.

    • garbage [none/use name,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      you can do most of that shit as a hippie on a commune though. this is not as bad a post as you make it out to be. it's just a shitpost about how stalin's personal property wasn't some huge wealth of shit.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Umm, isn't this like a really good point in favour of communism? Like, if good stuff is available, and one does not need many personal possessions, isn't that good? Isn't that just what a good life is?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    This seems incomplete, does it not include what was in the locker?

    I read somewhere that in his locker was a bag with the royalties earnings from his books. $200k, complete and untouched.