I love the current convention where news sources show little pol heads. It makes American politics that much more absurd.
how much more time and money are we going to waste pretending like the 2024 republican nominee hasn't already been settled?
how much more time
~4 months?
and money
I'm truly terrible at mental arithmetic but I'll guess a few hundred million.
I'm voting for Indoril Nerevar / Dumac Dwarfking 2024
I'm not even sure if I'm joking I might go write that in
I for one support Kagrenac and his project of attaining super CHIM to write us all out of this story and into a different, nicer one.
It's impressive how powerful racism is, because by all accounts Vivek really follows these horrid, fascistic principles to a T. Like, honesty shocked he hasn't polled higher.
they should've made the heads also move up or down depending on where the bar is. So Asa Hutchinson, we would only see his hair and Trump would tower over everyone else
honestly insane that anyone ever thought it was gonna go different. there have only been two politicians at the national level in the last 10 years that a significant number of voters have actually seriously cared about, and one of them has apparently decided he'll die before palestinians get human rights.
one of them has decided he'll die before palestinians get human rights.
Inshallah.
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Unfortunately I can't say more.
apropos of nothing, i just wanted to say I sure wish someone would give those palestinians human rights.
Goes to show how despised Republicans are even among their own voters that the candidate who poses as an "outsider" is blowing them out of the water
Look what they did to Our Big Wet Boy! They focused on one of his non-existent bald spots!
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In a coincidence I was googling and I saw that Ryan Binkley is running for president too. He didn't even make the list. I had to google because I forgot who he is. He's just some rando pastor from Texas.
They are all running to grift unless they are insane. I wonder what he hopes to get.
I think some people literally run just to claim for the rest of their life that they were a presidential candidate. I guess if you're a bored billionaire why not pin another bullshit medal on your chest
From a big bin in a room that also has a bin full of English town names. You go in there and pull out a Gamp McSmicklies for US Congress as well as a Spottleshill-upon-Wimpleshire for some village in West Champerton.
I hope the day Haley starts to lead DeSantis in the pols - somebody snarkily tells him and he tries and 100% fails to laugh it off. He looks utterly dejected. His mask slips and he rages like a wounded predator because he knows his serious injury means certain death.
I don't understand who lied to DeSantis in his life or why he believed he could be president. I guess his fluke governor win, but even then I don't understand why he left congress to run for an executive position beyond just pure evil desire for more power. He's got that ratfucker esthetic perfect for behind the scenes House shit but when light is shined on him everyone can clearly see how gross he is. He's too whiny, he's too petty without the humor that Trump can twist into his pettiness, he's overall just a completely unlikable, gross human. I see some little suck-ass weasel like Vivek getting to be president before DeSantis but who knows. They're both demons so it's not like it really matters
I think there are some players who might be running for "plan B".
If Trump dies, or the legal trouble gets bad enough (i. e. the "we can't put him on the ballot for insurrection reasons/being imprisoned/etc" cases take too many electoral votes off the table), the GOP may have to find someone else to avoid suicide. The campaign would be doomed from day 1, but I suspect running without a presidential candidate in a given state is an easy way to clobber Senate/House/state/local turnout.
DeSantis rode the "I'm almost as Trumpy" dragon, but would it be enough?
Before he bailed, I gave Mike Pence good odds in that scenario: hardcore social conservative cred, explicit break from the election denialism, but more a product of the party itself, so he could draw support from the low-level people who hoped to be career Republican politicians.
Maybe this could be the consolation prize for McCarthy? He spent a few months being a human shield for the zaniest of the GOP, so the party owes him something.
Your calipers are waaaaay off if you think Mike Pence had even a snowballs chance in hell of becoming president. He is probably one of the most actively disliked conservative politicians by conservatives outside of moderates who, incorrectly, see him as a lesser evil to Trump. The activist side though, who are the major drivers of the media consumption, think of Pence as a literal traitor.
Pence was more likely to be assassinated by some lunatic than become president.
Not winning. Just getting the nomination in a hypothetical no-Trump scenario.
Even winning the nomination wasn't in spitting distance for Pence for the exact same reasons.
DeSantis had a chance until people started to hear him speak and his voice has too many shades of Waluigi for most people to take seriously.
I don't understand who lied to DeSantis in his life or why he believed he could be president.
Sycophants. There is no way this guy doesn't surround himself exclusively with yes-men.
There was a time when leftists really feared him running and believed him to be the competent fascist. He had more of a chance than their previous nightmare candidate, Tom Cotton. But he just has too much of a soft politician personality for anyone to take seriously on the level of Trump. I kind of expected this to happen to him tbh.
Listening to Reddit and the MSM would have you believe Trump is floundering and destined to lose while having a tight race against Desantis.
I'm kind of in awe of their abilities at self delusion. If I was still a liberal - I'd be in a rubber room because I wouldn't have been able to convince myself that Biden's 2024 polling numbers aren't catastrophic and there's a good chance that Trump won't get the nomination. How any lib can convince themselves of that is beyond me.
Trump RAGES
Trump FLAILING
Trump SHITS HIS DOODOO PANTS FOR REAL THIS TIME
I’m hoping we get to see some burgumentum. His name is so ridiculous I want him to stick around
That's sort of how I felt about Asa Hutchinson. It sounds like the name of some stock-villian plantation owner in an antebellum themed bodice-ripper.
Whoa, I didn't know Asa Akira was running for president, good for her!
He should have given himself the nickname "Burger" and then he could have burgermentum.
Trump Yokozuna. Nobody topples Trump Yokozuna.
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Yokozuna (横綱) is the highest rank in sumo. The name literally means "horizontal rope" and comes from the most visible symbol of their rank, the rope (綱, tsuna) worn around the waist. The rope is similar to the shimenawa used to mark off sacred areas in Shinto, and like the shimenawa it serves to purify and mark off its content. The rope, which may weigh up to 20 kilograms (44 lb), is not used during the matches themselves, but is worn during the yokozuna's dohyō-iri ring entrance ceremony.
As the sport's biggest stars, yokozuna are in many ways the grandmasters and the public face of sumo. As such, the way they conduct themselves is highly scrutinized, as it is seen as reflecting on the image of sumo as a whole. As of July 2021, a total of 73 sumo wrestlers have earned the rank of yokozuna.
Wait, is that saying that there have only been 73 of them ever? I had no idea
Yes.
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At the last minute I realized what I had written was probably all wrong. And it was. I shouldn't have been so lazy. For example - the promotion process is explained just a bit lower down on the page.
Criteria for promotion
In modern sumo, the qualifications that an ōzeki must satisfy to be promoted are that he has enough power, skill and dignity/grace (品格 hinkaku) to qualify. There are no absolute criteria, nor is there a set quota: there have been periods with no wrestlers at yokozuna rank, and there have been periods with as many as four simultaneously.
Note to self - at least scroll down a little, dummy!
Yep, and there has only been 45 US presidents ever, therefore Trump > Yokozuna /s
If orange man wins again I don't even know what to do
i think democracy dies the moment he is actually allowed to officually run. He doesn't even need to win. He can lose, and the effect is the same. oh lort mmmmMMMMMmmmMMHGGMMM .... here comes a rant......
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I like my copium as much as the next guy but this will make 3 presidential elections in a row, 12 years of elections, with only one "choice", a choice forced upon us by the opposition party. Isn't it time for us to accept that?
The Dems are increasingly using their MM mouthpieces to hand-pick republican opponents, giving fascists money and airtime if they think they can beat them. Do we suppose this practice ends after this year? After Trump dies? EVER? Do we actually believe that?
I bet you don't. I definitely don't. Not anymore, not when it's this blatant. I'm actually insulted for humanity that more of us haven't. fuck man, We used to make fun of banana public elections with only one real choice. Now we're the big chiquita.
OK i feel a bit better, tanks
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Since when was the US ever democratic, especially compared to democracies like China?
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Trump's campaign officially launched like a year ago
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2026 is the most important election of our lifetime - if it's allowed to happen.
Professional Rich Guy / Part Time Wrestler / TV Man Trump vs Boring Ass Politicians
easy decision
I've heard of Trump and am sure Vivek is the one that did the foul murder to Indoril Nerevar, but since I'm not from America, can a burger brain give me gist of the other contestants?
For the Dems:
-Biden (the current guy). His administration hasn’t seen any major changes other than the status quo of the decline of our living standards. Notably, there’s no policy page on his campaign site.
-Dean Philips (Suburban Minneapolis representative). Exact same policies as Biden. His whole gimmick is that he’s younger.
-Marianne Williamson (Self-help author). Only challenge from Biden’s left. Despite being the kind of person to say that the battle of Stalingrad was won through love, she’s somehow not the most woo-y candidate to run as a dem so far- we’ll get to the guy who fits that later.
For the GOP:
-Trump (The former guy). His whole campaign is themed around insisting that he was robbed of winning the last election by China/immigrants/Soros/whatever boogeyman a supporter of his has the most specific grudge against. Somehow not the most fascist of the candidates this time around. That would be…
-Ron DeSantis (Governor of Florida). Leads the kind of administration to give governmental protection to gay conversion efforts. Easily the candidate with the loosest mask of sanity, with a notably Batemanesque demeanor. Speaking of Patrick Bateman, the biggest campaign account for him made a video calling him a sigma male for being homophobic, and has retweeted a synthwave edit where his state guard marches in front of a Nazi sonnenrad. He also helped cover up torture at Guantanamo.
-Nikki Haley (Former South Carolina [My state] governor). My mildly abusive mom slept at her dorm when they were in college. Haley’s moderately pro-Trump, but is able to hold her tongue before being too praiseworthy of him. She might get the VP nomination.
-Vivek Ramaswamy (Medical grifting near-billionaire). Basically Trump’s surrogate for the debates, where Trump is blocked from due to not pledging to unconditionally support whatever nominee is chosen. Hammers hard about all the latest anti-woke buzzwords and the Second Cold War, and is possibly the biggest Christian theocrat of the lot, despite being Hindu.
-Chris Christie (Highly disgraced former governor of New Jersey). Last voice of the never-Trumpers. Was a popular moderate Republican straggler once, before he closed tolls on a bridge to an island town that voted against him and his approval in the state dropped to single digits. Spent two minutes explaining a joke where since Trump ducked the debates, he should be called Donald Duck.
-Tim Scott (South Carolina senator). The other biggest theocrat. Bragged about being a virgin into his thirties. Is the Black Friend of every other GOP senator.
-Doug Burgum (North Dakota governor). Bog-standard post-trump reactionary governor, but looks notably more dorky than the rest of the field.
-Asa Hutchinson (Former Arkansas governor). Bog-standard pre-trump reactionary governor. Potentially a former member of the Country Bear Jamboree.
For the independent candidates:
-Robert Kennedy Junior (Failnephew of the president who died under the most suspicious circumstances, and an antivax crank). Was running ahead of Williamson in the primary before running as an independent. Has no other policies than insisting that Wifi can kill people, but his last name alone has given him the support of 20% of voters.
-Cornel West (socdem/demsoc public speaker). Ram for a party only registered in Florida ram by a bunch of grifters, switched to the Green Party, and then ditched them and ran without a party. Somewhat tactless, has defended getting donations from a GOP megadonor trying to sabotage either Biden’s or his campaign. Also said in 2011 that he agreed with Reagan sending aid to “our Israeli Brothers and Sisters”. At least he looks and sounds the most badass out of the candidates.
Some of people like Ryan Binkley have basically near zero or effectively zero support so they hardly appear or don't appear at all in polls.
Democrats
Joseph R. Biden Jr.
Current president
82 years old on Inauguration Day
President Biden has cast himself as a protector of democracy and a stabilizing force after the upheaval of the Trump administration.Marianne Williamson
Self-help author
72 years old on Inauguration Day
Marianne Williamson, a self-help author and former spiritual adviser to Oprah Winfrey, is running for a second time.Cenk Uygur
Progressive talk show host
54 years old on Inauguration Day
Cenk Uygur, the creator of The Young Turks, a progressive talk show, says he doesn't have "giant policy disagreements with Biden": His top issues are a higher minimum wage, a public health insurance option and paid family leave, which Mr. Biden supports but has not gotten through Congress. But he says Mr. Biden cannot win the general election.Dean Phillips
Representative from Minnesota
56 years old on Inauguration Day
Dean Phillips, a moderate Democrat elected to the House in 2018, has few major policy disagreements with President Biden and has supported his agenda in Congress, but argues that Mr. Biden’s age and low approval ratings mean the party should nominate someone else.---
Republicans
Donald J. Trump
Former president and businessman
78 years old on Inauguration Day
Former President Donald J. Trump is running to retake the office he lost in 2020, then denied losing to the point of inciting a mob of his supporters to attack the United States Capitol.Nikki Haley
Former governor and U.N. ambassador
53 years old on Inauguration Day
Nikki Haley, a former governor of South Carolina and United Nations ambassador under Mr. Trump, has presented herself as a member of “a new generation of leadership” and emphasized her life experience as a daughter of Indian immigrants.Vivek Ramaswamy
Entrepreneur and author
39 years old on Inauguration Day
Vivek Ramaswamy, a multimillionaire entrepreneur and author, describes himself as “anti-woke” and has made a name for himself in right-wing circles by opposing corporate efforts to advance political, social and environmental causes.Asa Hutchinson
Former governor of Arkansas
74 years old on Inauguration Day
Asa Hutchinson, a two-term governor of Arkansas who left that job in January, is one of a relatively small number of Republicans who have been openly critical of former President Donald J. Trump.Ryan Binkley
Businessman and pastor
57 years old on Inauguration Day
Ryan Binkley is the president of a mergers and acquisitions firm and the pastor of a Texas church. He has never held or run for elected office before.Tim Scott
Senator from South Carolina
59 years old on Inauguration Day
Tim Scott is the first Black Republican senator from the South in more than a century and has been one of his party’s most prominent voices on matters of race.Ron DeSantis
Governor of Florida
46 years old on Inauguration Day
Ron DeSantis has built a national reputation as a combative conservative eager to do battle with liberals.Chris Christie
Former governor of New Jersey
62 years old on Inauguration Day
As governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie drew accolades for his management of his state’s recovery from Hurricane Sandy, and condemnation for a scandal surrounding the closing of lanes onto the George Washington Bridge.Doug Burgum
Governor of North Dakota
68 years old on Inauguration Day
Doug Burgum is in his second term as governor of North Dakota, where he has signed large tax cuts and a near-total ban on abortion.---
Independent
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Anti-vaccine activist
71 years old on Inauguration Day
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a nephew of former President John F. Kennedy, is a prominent anti-vaccine activist. He initially ran for the Democratic nomination before announcing in October that he would run as an independent instead.Cornel West
Professor and progressive activist
72 years old on Inauguration Day
Cornel West has taught at Yale, Princeton and Harvard and is currently a professor of philosophy at Union Theological Seminary. He is known for his progressive activism, including his sharp criticism of former President Barack Obama.https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/us/politics/presidential-candidates-2024.html#biden
Rant - I had to fix the copy and paste. Sites need to make their shit ready to copy and paste with no bother. It's super-annoying when they don't. Also - shit needs to be alphabetized.
