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Honestly I don't see the windows 11 hate anymore, it's not that different from 10? But installing Linux is based you should do it.
10 was kinda bad enough but the UI is even worse, the AI integration upcoming is worrying, the internet setup shit is even more pervasive, they ruined the taskbar/system tray, bluetooth and even wired USB controller inputs are scuffed, it performs even more like ass, start menu bad, honeslty it just takes even longer to whip into decent shape than 10.
Dearest eggnog! Please suggest a linux distro you like!
getting in before any other tech literate trans woman does to say the line. install arch, you should run arch, btw did you know I run arch? (I do not, that shit is too complicated for me)
Installing arch:
>guide says check your network devices with a utility
>do so
>guide goes on to talk about some other thing meanwhile there's no way out of the network utility bar alt-f4
Genius, user friendly, idiot proof design. I installed openbsd with minimal issue but Arch itself is fucking stupid.
ctrl-C didn’t work?
who the fuck would think to use ctrl-c to exit a goddamn program? I tried esc, alt-f4, ctrl-x, (which exits terminal text editors in arch) no dice lol
ctrl-C in the terminal, unless it’s being overridden, sends SIGINT to the currently running program which typically causes it to close. It’s really useful for closing programs when you don’t know how to do it otherwise (like I don’t know if
ping
even has another way to close it) and when you use it on the command line it just discards what you’ve typed and drops you to a new prompt. Although text editors usually override it (like on nano (best editor) it just reports your cursor position and doesn’t send the SIGTERM). ctrl-Z also sends SIGTSTP which pauses the currently running program and moves it to the background and if you want to use it with nano (you do, it’s really convenient) you can just edit your nanorc file to enable suspension and map^Z
tosuspend
Side note, but a really common exit command is
q
, which is probably what the utility wantedI use nano, good editor...
So like where was I supposed to learn this? Arch wiki doesn't say any of this shit.
I think the guide probably assumes you already know about ^C, but as for the utility, a good way to learn about any terminal program is its man page. Just type
man [program]
and it’ll bring up the man page which explains how to use it. Just press/
to search the page,q
(or^C
) to close it, andh
to bring up the help menu. Seriously,man
is essential and I use it all the time, and it’s generally your first go-to for a quick summary of how to use a program. When I was first learning how to use the terminal I literally just typedman bash
a lot lolEdit: also, typically
[program] --help
or even-h
will print a brief list of options for use with that command. The bashhelp
command can also be used for the actual bash commands (likealias
) which typically don’t have man pages (unless you count bash’s) as opposed to the external programsEdit2: I should say that none of this is specific to arch, it’s just general unix stuff but I think the arch installation guide assumes you know it already
Seriously though it’s great. Not fancy as, say, emacs but very easy to use and you can still do a lot with it. I actually do all my programming in nano
The Taskbar can be changed back, I haven't really experienced the other issues. I don't do much to my OS though.
I like mint/Ubuntu but I don't use it often enough unfortunately. I guess since most of what I do on it is hexbear, matrix, minecraft or stardew I could probably switch pretty easily 🤔 but eh, on some level I don't care much about it.
My self hosted shit is all Linux though, obviously.
Yeah I put 10explorer or whatever, Explorerpatcher but updates keep breaking it. It fuckin sucks.
My troubles are based, I like hooking up Wii U Pro Controllers and Dualshock 2s and using all kinds of weird old utilities for crusty old PC games from the XP and Vista era. Stardew and buttcraft are good on Linux, only like two of my ten PCs run Windoze at this point, but I wanna dualboot. Is apt-get still ugly? I have traumatic memories of trying to install tarballs...
Also I can't believe you are computers waow
I should check if updates have broken that for me too, probably.
Ooh, yea I haven't tried to connect anything like that. We'll I think I tried a wiiu controller on 10 but couldn't get it working, lol. I don't think so? I feel like I've been able to use it just fine but I never had a problem with it.
I suppose I haven't talked about computers much, but yes I am 😔 why do you have 10 computers?
Yeag, alas =)
WiiUnsoft is weird, it takes effort but the Wii U pro pad is so nice. I might try a debian based install again, might be time finally...
Incredible news, very nice I'm like a UXWBill or a Vwestlife, I have one modern laptop and one modern desktop, and then everything else I own is salvage. Curbsides, garbage containers, thrift stores, people dumping old "dead" computers on me. Mostly Core 2, Phenom, Phenom II and early Core-i stuff, my children I collect them like pokemon!!
Ooh, I might need to get the gamepad set up next time I'm in the mood for cemu. Do you use it for anything but wiiu stuff? Do it, I use debian for my server stuff!
That's very cool :) I need more old hardware in my life.
I'm a freak so I use it for absolutely anything I feel like, I played Asscreed Unity with it once. Probably good for DS games too, but if you're a sicko like me and use a pad for Minecraft, the way your thumb goes up to the right stick over the face buttons means mapping A to jump is very handy, can jump while still lookin around.
Thenkyew =) Yeah old computers kinda slap, handy to bust em out and test an operating system longterm, or use em for a NAS, anything really.
Ooh, I didn't think of DS games. I really like the ds/3ds but a lot of them don't work as well on modern hardware. That is genuinely a sicko move, I hate gamepad minecraft. But I can see where that stick layout could be better for that.
on principle I really hate the fact that they made the end of life for w10 NEXT YEAR to force people to update. that's what inspired me to finally get windows off my main machine. also my top of the line rig from 5 years ago won't even run it. AI stuff sucks ass too. never a better time to escape that shitty ecosystem imo. using windows feels like I'm renting my computer from msoft compared to Linux.
Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC ends life in 2032 so dual booting that is always an option if anyone needs a windows 10 machine. I'm on a Zephyrus G14 atm with win 11 but when I get a desktop I'll be probably daily driving a dual boot system.
that is a good tip, thank you! I'll look into it if a use case pops up for sure
the problem with 11 is more the hardware demands, which are unreasonable and the OS does run fine on older machines, more telemetry invasiveness, and the further creeping of windows as a live serivce, all of which is after they'd said windows 10 was the final version of windows. the UI stuff is more than alterable with installing stuff on top to give you w/e start bar you want and all that, it's more the continued degrading of windows as a product
Idk I think it would scream if I put it on a mechanical drive... Otherwise though yeah exactly. Only like two devices in my entire house meet the TPM requirement, albeit I disabled it anyway.