I watched it and now I'm chilling

  • tocopherol [any]
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    14 days ago

    The violence here are the thousands of people who die prematurely because of inhuman practices by insurance companies, this shooting is self-defense.

      • EstraDoll [she/her]
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        14 days ago

        Denying people healthcare is a form of violence. This man absolutely had uncountable amounts of blood and lives ruined on his hands

              • sammer510 [none/use name]
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                14 days ago

                I voted for Claudia de la Cruz dipshit. You are politically illiterate. Killing fascists is actually the opposite of what fascists want usually.

              • EstraDoll [she/her]
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                14 days ago

                "Everyone I disagree with on the internet is a Trump voting American" you are literally twelve years old

              • Bureaucrat
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                14 days ago

                A friend of a family member was insured through UnitedHealthcare and was denied approval for a MRI for months while experiencing excruciating back pain, by the time it was finally approved the tumor had eaten away at several vertebrae and it had become inoperable, she left behind a 2 year old child. My only regret is that the CEO didn't suffer as long as people he was obligated to help.

          • EstraDoll [she/her]
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            14 days ago

            no, it's because I have half a sense of decency. Did you cry when Hitler shot himself because suicide is bad?

          • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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            14 days ago

            What in your view justifies people dying in the thousands because of health insurance denying them coverage?

              • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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                14 days ago

                Make a point, you fucking dullard. You can be self-righteous all you want, but if you cannot articulate a point or position, why should anybody give a shit about your whiny indignation over a rich murderer being murdered?

                I like comeuppance. This person inflicted death on others, so I don't see a problem with them dying. Just because their violence is considered socially acceptable under capitalism doesn't make it acceptable to the people who suffer under it.

                • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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                  14 days ago

                  Didn't you get the memo? All life is precious and all murder is bad which is why he has an unassailable high ground from which to pontificate. It's in the rules.

          • seas_surround [he/him]
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            14 days ago

            If everyone here was just a big fan of doing murders wouldn't we be opposed to killing health insurance CEOs? They're high up in the leaderboards when it comes to murdering people

      • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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        14 days ago

        Again its because our society is coated in violence due to the ways in which the capitalist-imperialist system forces every person here to be both complicit and on the receiving end of some forms of violence, overt or covert.

        The CEO of Unitedhealthcare is 1000% complicit in the immiseration and loss of life of probably millions, and im sure he didnt lose any sleep over it. Sometimes that violence will blow back and thats just the nature of being the perpetrator of violence.

              • sammer510 [none/use name]
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                14 days ago

                "Fascists and anti fascists are actually the same because they both think some people deserve to die" I hope when you see the CEO in hell he at least gives you a high five for having his back

                • Bureaucrat
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                  13 days ago

                  So funny to see a german talking about anti-fascism and appealing to civility. These dorks love to do the whole "oh we know the most about fascism because we pretend our grandparents didn't lick hitlers boots" but as soon as actual anti-fascist praxis is on the table it's suddenly back to the old rhetoric that allowed Hitler to grab power

              • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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                14 days ago

                We think they deserve to die for the tangible harm they cause to other people.

                They think we deserve to die because we're gay or trans or non-white, or because we think people should have equal rights and a good life regardless of the circumstances of their birth and their identity.

                Do you think these justifications are really equivalent?

              • miz [any, any]
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                14 days ago

                I noticed that you get cogent questions and yet you totally fail to respond

          • Staines [they/them]
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            14 days ago

            You're literally german. Supporting genocide is part of your culture.

            You're unable to help yourselves.

            Want to condemn the genocide of Gaza for us? or are you gonna give us some excuse as to why it's ok?

          • SmokinStalin [comrade/them]
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            14 days ago

            Do you consider insurace companies as murderers of the poor? Are you upset enough to comment on every cancer patient or grandma that died due to this mans decisions?

              • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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                14 days ago

                Well that's a shame cuz it's pretty cool that an agent of human misery and suffering got removed from our reality.

                Luckily you don't have to endorse it. It happened anyway.

                • Bureaucrat
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                  13 days ago

                  it's a german apparently

              • SmokinStalin [comrade/them]
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                14 days ago

                Yes yes, we know america bad brainwashed evil here amerikkka . So are you pointing out lack of nuance to say "no that is not murder in my eyes, murder only happens when you see it directly" ? Or are you trying to say something else.

      • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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        14 days ago

        It is true. There are lots of people in the US like you that will justify millions dying of preventable causes for the profits of corporate investors. It is unfortunate that nothing will satisfy your bloodlust except for millions more poor people dying.

          • WideningGyro [any]
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            14 days ago

            Millions being denied healthcare and dying of preventable causes: I sleep

            One capitalist pig who made his fortune on the backs of sick people getting capped: when will the barbarism end?!?

          • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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            14 days ago

            Then don't comment on problems you don't have to deal with. Our insurance industry is misery incarnate.

          • Kumikommunism [they/them]
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            14 days ago

            Literally nothing in my comment implied you were from the US. I assumed you were not because of your smug comment.

              • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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                14 days ago

                Like most European things - yes.

                It's a Christmas market drink - hot chocolate with rum in it. It's called Lumumba - named after Patrice Lumumba, the first Prime Minister of the Congo who...was assassinated by Belgium (well, by separatists technically but the Belgians were the ones who dug him up and dissolved his body in acid & had his bones crushed and scattered) in 1961 because they wanted so desperately to hold onto their colony which had broken away from their control. The US, UK, and Belgium were all very happy about it because at the time during the Congo Crisis, after the UN refused to step in and help, he'd been appealing to the Soviets which made him a dirty communist so why not.

                Eisenhower hated him, Dulles was all for assassination, MI6 supposedly had a hand in facilitating his execution. And yet still in 2024, a scant 4 years after Belgium finally repatriated what they had left of his remains & possessions back to his family in the Congo, Germans still go to Christmas market and ask for a lumumba and go who-did-this when you point out that they're basically celebrating colonialism in their own little way.

                Many such cases across Europe and Belgium/Germany especially. Mohrenkopf and Negerkuss ARE NOT racist names for chocolate covered marshmallows, yes that means "Moor's Head" and "Negro's Kiss" but they're NOT racist names; stop trying to destroy tradition by getting them renamed!!!

                • OptimusSubprime [he/him, they/them]
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                  14 days ago

                  Many such cases across Europe and Belgium/Germany especially. Mohrenkopf and Negerkuss ARE NOT racist names for chocolate covered marshmallows, yes that means "Moor's Head" and "Negro's Kiss" but they're NOT racist names; stop trying to destroy tradition by getting them renamed!!!

                  Shit, that's like reading about the racist ass city names in America. Shit like "Dead N**** Hollow, TN", "N**** Foot, VA", and "A.N.N.A, IL"

                  [CW: Turbo Racism]

                  https://www.theroot.com/dead-negro-and-other-towns-with-unbelievable-racist-nam-1851447014

                  https://www.vice.com/en/article/theres-hundreds-of-racist-place-names-across-the-us-heres-why-its-hard-to-change-them/

                • Bureaucrat
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                  13 days ago

                  I had no idea that's where the name comes from. Knowing it now I feel like reclaiming it somehow. It's a great drink and having one named after you is cool af. I wonder if there is a way to decouple it from its colonialist bs

                  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    13 days ago

                    i don't think there's a great way to decouple it from the colonialist origins, given the reason the drink is named lumumba is because it is 'chocolate with a shot (of rum)' and you know...Lumumba was an African who was shot to death...but who knows maybe he's looking on from the great beyond and going "yeah i would've named the drink that myself. probably would be better to name something else after him that isn't based in racism

              • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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                14 days ago

                ah well, i guess i'll take the insufferably smug german over a racist one but buddy you're not making yourself any friends here