We obviously haven't bullied the libs hard enough. Can we get this puppy to 30%? That new Genocide Joe is pretty hot. Forge the memes!
Yeah he'll probably lose. I just don't see him winning Michigan/Minnesota while being genocidal.
The level of liberal islam-hate will be insane if their big wet blue boy loses and they can blame it on the 'arabs'
I don't see Biden losing unless he's primaried. Trump is probably going to end up a felon before the 2024 election happens. If there's no Trump, there is no Republican 2024 election dub happening. Biden may suck as a leader, but he is still a figure head of the Dems. Who are Republicans going to band behind, DeSantis? They have no leaders with enough charisma to actually make it happen.
Indeed, and the republican voting base is so all-in for him at this point I can't imagine them taking no for an answer at this late hour. The republican party simply cannot come up with an alternative candidate, everyone in the running is polling penny shavings compared to him. Even if there is some procedural technicality that the Democratic party can gesture to, it will ultimately come down to whether or not it's expedient to enforce those technicalities.
Which is to say, as always, the CIA decides who's president.
Most republicans would drop down to their knees and suck trump’s dick if he told them to. Most democrats would do the same for biden if he said that our “democracy” depends on it.
I wonder if anyone will try to play the constitutional crisis card if he got elected due to the 14th Amendment
Libs need to realize that you can run for president from jail.
Trump literally wants to reinstate Muslim ban if he were to be re-elected. So long as Trump continues to make promises like this, it gives the Dems will have a lot of room to maneuver. At the end of the day, they still have to concede that Biden is still not as bad as Trump.
woah such a change: muslim genocide or muslim genocide
which flavor should i choose though, donkey or elephant? I mean incredible amounts will die either way but i really want the flavor to kick
To presume Kaplya's point... they are making an observation on how the general American liberal voter will perceive it and thus vote Democratic over Republican. They are not actually claiming a belief that Dems are better on an actually existing way.
Obviously we all hate Amerikkka's inevitable Fascist speedrun that will occur regardless of party.
Eh, I've seen quite a few genocide-deniers as of late. Libs can just choose not to believe or say how killing kids is good, actually.
Are we just gonna get hit with 1-term presidents for the rest of these dying empire? That'd be incredibly funny, every rabid motherfucker running for president, one of them winning and subsequently shitting the bed so badly, they are replaced by an even worse asshole just back to back. Repealing laws and ruling by decrees left and right.
The decay of the state capacity supports corporate control anyway. Erosion of "democratic" state power just means that non democratic powers fill the void.
It would allow the elite to hold their power. Nothing would get done. So nothing would change
I am telling you that polls don’t matter.
Biden is going to promise a 20k student debt cancellation, and half of the people who talked about not voting for Biden again is going to tell you “Biden is really screwed this time, he HAS to stick to his promise this time”, and the other half will secretly go out to vote for Biden while loudly denouncing how shitty of a president he is at the same time.
Election day comes and… Biden WINS!
And to the surprise of no one, everyone gets rug pulled again, nothing gets cancelled and everyone now goes back to criticizing how Democrats are just as bad as the GOP and they’ll surely not vote for the Dems next time.
Rinse and repeat, come 2028 and they’ll tell you to at least give AOC a chance.
I’m telling you that the Democrats will win in 2024, 100% guaranteed. 2016 was a mistake and the establishment has fixed that since, in case you haven’t noticed. Trump never had a chance, and the Republicans never had a chance to begin with.
You seem to think that Republicans aren't also the establishment. Interesting.
The ideological civil war within the Republican party ended with the take over by MAGA extremists (see Trump’s polling in the Republican primaries - yes, even though I said not to trust the poll). There is no chance that the GOP today controlled by a crazy MAGA faction can stand against the institutions of the liberal establishment.
There is a reason why the GOP today (which is managed by a faction that is fast losing its ground in American politics) has taken more and more openly extreme stance, because the Democrat’s strategy is to eat their lunch. Who’s better at getting racist laws passed? Who supports the police force better? Who is better at expelling illegal immigrants? Who’s better at ending COVID and masking? The smart racist conservatives have already figured out that Democrats is their ticket to getting what they want.
Liberalism only makes sense under periods where the empire is strong and either growing or at least stable.
When the empire destabilizes and contracts, fascism is always the response. And we're over the hill.
Who says liberalism is incapable of turning fascism? The Democrats will become the fascist brand, that’s the whole point. The Republicans are finished - they have been out-flanked, very skillfully, by the Democrats and proven themselves to be the incapable ones.
This is literally what Democrats thought before Trump won, almost word-for-word. Holy shit.
Even longer. This was said during the Reconstruction era and during FDR's administration. The Republican Party is a cockroach that seemingly dies and only ends up coming back stronger.
Reagan and George W. were both "Trumps" before Trump. Exterme reactionaries with a christo-fascist base. MAGA is not a divergence from the GOP its the tragectory its been on since the crypto-fascist Conservative Movement was begun back in the 50s/60s
I'm 40, I've been hearing bright eyed, ignorant Dems say the Republicans are finished since I was first able to vote.
They aren't going anywhere.
There is no chance that the GOP today controlled by a crazy MAGA faction can stand against the institutions of the liberal establishment.
starts trembling uncontrollably and repeating “2016” over and over again
I didn't vote for Biden in 2020 and I won't go near a polling station ever again. At this point it isn't even Joe Biden, they mobilized to win the entire state of Georgia and they still didn't send a $2000 stimulus check. They are losers.
and I won't go near a polling station ever again.
you might have city or county races that matter, or keeping a crank off of your school board.
yeah... but creationists and belligerent transphobes are worse than your average liberal so sometimes "harm reduction" isn't cope or a guilt trip.
Yeah, jokes on them. I'm never going to vote in an election. Didn't vote in 2012, 2016, or 2020. Not even going to bother with down ballot votes. No point to it.
i keep saying it as a joke but i might actually sign up on one of those online gambling sites to bet money that trump will win 2024
Predictit has trump shares at 37 cents(sells for a dollar if he wins) so you could make a pretty decent return. (Biden are 43 cents for perspective)
Betting against Biden isn’t the same as for Trump, because some people still think a third candidate will get it
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456
Americans are too DUMB to understand that BIDENOMICS is WORKING
Oh your child is hungry and you can't afford to feed them. You absolute buffoon haven't you seen the graph I have where line goes up. Vote blue
We’ve progressed past the need for presidents. Wild how nothing would change if we just did away with them completely and argued over which duopoly-led majority should get more power in Congress and which duopoly voter block is responsible for the supreme court’s decision to overturn the 13th amendment
Of course we haven't. Douglas Adams put it better than I ever could:
"The President in particular is very much a figurehead — he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it."
Genocide Joe is actually doing a great job. We need to improve our messaging.
I'll be honest, I think Biden will still win.
The election is a year away, people have sort memories, and as elections grow closer more and more people will get "lesser of two evilism" brain. Honestly I suspect a lot of people who insist they won't vote or protest vote actually do sneak a ballot in for the Dems, cuz in truth they are scared of another Trump term but wanna keep their lefty cred. Heck, I'll admit, I did it last election, granted I lived in a state with mail in ballots which made it fuck all easy to do, also it was a solid blue state so idk why I bothered. I think I was thinking "well this will get the Libs off my back for not Vooootin".
Probably won't again, but again is doesn't matter cuz I still don't live in a swing state.
This assumes that the catastrophes will just stop for the next year. But with the amerikkkan empire in terminal decline and the bourgeoisie at the helm, the disasters will just keep coming.
The news does a good job of ignoring international tragedies when an election is rolling up. And the fear of a second cheeto presidency will spook most left of center people to the polls. The Muslim population won't vote for him but I don't think they're a big enough bloc to swing anything as long a black people and college educated women still vote blue.
I'll be honest, I think Biden will still win.
I'm not sure he'll win, but i don't see it as any less likely because of this poll.
I think Biden won 2020 largely due to Covid. 1)because Covid was a crisis that dominated the end of the election cycle that would make any admin look bad, and 2) Covid allowed Biden to hide and not campaign, and kept Trump from doing the same.
On the otherside, Biden's only selling point was that he's not Trump, and despite what we here all know
, he's still not Trump to libs. It's kind of a toss up at this pointI think approval ratings for presidents are going to stay low like this, because people are feeling the decline. Presidential approval is more of a barometer for how people feel like things generally are. We're not going to see Eisenhower numbers again, because no most people aren't ever going to feel that good about the country for obvious reasons.
Yeah, the moment when they confirmed that the easiest way to get unlimited power is to have thousands of people die on your watch.
Kinda is? Just look at the amount of stimulus spending he has been authorized. The amount of money we’re sending into israel and ukraine is also wild!
That’s because the libs blame Trump for his handling of COVID or already supported him, and the rest were brown people far away as far as your average lib cares.
Get a bunch of white billionaires like in the WTC and declare war on brown people because of it = profit
I'm just hoping the GOP drops trump as a result of the felony thing and Trump goes 3rd party - splitting the regressive ticket.
