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I even see an argument for the idea that the US is as low as third all time behind the British and Spanish empires, but that's not company you want to be keeping.
I heard someone talking about how, in Cortez’s diaries, you can see he’s constantly obsessing over how he’s going to repay the debt he went into to make the trip to the Americas.
Which isn’t to absolve him of blame for being a ruthless shithead, but rather to point out that he didn’t simply do things because being a shithead was cool (well, I’m sure he blew off steam in abhorrent ways, but I digress). The point was that there were institutional factors at play as well, and that we can’t simply do a “bad apples” analysis.
This all came up in the context of discussing Scheidler’s The End of the Megamachine. I just found it to be a really interesting discussion of things I wasn’t aware of, and wanted to float it into the internet aether. And to say, yeah, the people they sent certainly had many problems
Makes sense. That's probably the closest thing to a rich person they could make sit on a boat for half a year eating salted meat and lime vinegar.
Most of their stories read like fucked up D&D campaigns.
I want to read some
Oh also, America is originally the UK's fault, so they're the extra-worst. Even their fucking imperialism does imperialism!
My perspective
While the British were a stereotypical evil Empire which ultimately caused the most net human suffering, because it fell behind the US in the 20th century much of its violent history is confined to the brutality of 19th century Imperialism, and that checklist of terrorism has been run through almost all European countries.
The US on the other hand not only went through that checklist but developped its intelligence services into what, from a moral perspective, can only be understood as a demonic entities hellbent on producing new ways of human suffering.
Rap analogy: Britain is Eminem, cuz they got the biggest numbers, the US is Kanye West, cuz they're the most creative.
Now that I think about it, Imperial Japan, as short lived as it was, is a very good challenger for top spot.
And the other one are all NATO dogs which answer to it now anyway.
BadEmpanada just recently decided to call BayArea415 "a fake poc" and said he had "dolezal energy", so its a lot more than just hot garbo takes, more like rabid racism. Oh and when BayArea made a thread responding to those allegations with his personal experiences growing up LATAM, BE responded with calling him a "race LARPer".
https://twitter.com/bayareas415/status/1384910144698568704
https://twitter.com/VladEmpanada/status/1385325513875640325
I love how most of the comments in here are not even acknowledging how racist he is.
I'm going to call the media equating China to something out of 1984 as Orientalist propaganda myths from now on.
That's a good one.
BadEmpanada is spreading the rhetoric of false equivalency with Western colonial genocide in his videos on China and doesn't provide such contextualization until like an hour into a given video.
This is that Garfield, "I wonder who that's for" meme.
sad how many people back off of just no. 1
it really has tons of explanatory power re the other 2, especially when you consider how much money the Forbes and Delanos and the like made off of China in the opium trade
as a reflex I generally disregard anything BE says about something outside of latam. He did have a pretty good post on the sub where he talked about how bad stalin caused the holodomor and then was like "oh wait no that was churchill and india" lol
I don't remember much tbh but he called people genocide deniers for questioning his shit sources in Xinjiang in a livestream and banned them a while ago
For some reason any time I think about BE I think of him getting destroyed on Twitter by an 18-year old succdem ( https://twitter.com/mchughmungus/status/1376275363123331076?s=20 ) but yeah, absolutely no lies detected here. Death to America.
He doesn't have "hot garbo" takes, he has good takes. All of them.
Scrolling down in the thread it's just the usual suspects getting mad that China gets held to the same standards as the US.
Ah, I just remembered who our resident leftcom grifter was. my apologies to @LibsEatPoop3 for the confusion. These takes aren't good:
china is bad, china government is bad, china foreign policy contains crimes
please leave us alone, no1 wants your grifts on this website
What? Are you the person who was getting pissed at me for not knowing who Aaron Mate was and accusing me of lying?
Just for you I’d gone and read the article you linked again and still found no mention of him or grayzone but you didn’t reply after that.
And can you fucking stop tagging random people who have nothing to do with the conversation at hand?
please leave us alone, no1 wants your grifts on this website
And stop accusing people of being “leftcom grifters” and pretending that you represent “us”. Leftcoms are leftists just like mls or anarchists. That is the official position of this website.
why are you replying to me about what Ive said to someone other than you? Read the article again, aaron mate is in there.
the problem being, of course, that when we press for specifics you regurgitate some dumbass nonsensical talking points or half baked analysis and outright propaganda
Of course the not half baked analysis and not propaganda is China not doing anything wrong ever.
you're the type of guy to mention sri lanka and the spratley islands. get outta here