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Targets: WTC, Pentagon, Whitehouse (?)
No connection there. Totally random
Terrorism: famous for being totally random, and having no political angle whatsoever.
The Pentagon was a miss, they wanted to hit the White House but couldn't find it. The Pentagon was easily visible so they chose that instead. I forgot what the target was of the one the American civilians intercepted and crashed, I want to say the US Capitol.
Hey, the Weathermen bombed the US Capitol in the 70s for the same reason. Did you know this happened? All of the 70s communist resistance groups have been completely memory holed.
...swear to god comic book authors don't get their own characters. this is the number one argument against copyright. those characters need to be freed from the chains of their creators.
Well, their creators have been dead or retired for years now. The comic book characters we see now are an interpretation of a previous reimagining of a revamp designed to sell more than the creator's original vision, which the creator themself changed to fit within the Comics Code Authority.
Part of why I can't get into superhero shit beyond that 50s pulp goofiness
It's grown men dressing up in spandex plotting to take over/blow up the world, human life is cheap, everything is character-driven by the personal quibbles of spandex fetishists
Trying to engage the complexity and real suffering of the real world with mindless stuff meant for children is fucking dumb
There was a blog post a while ago about how superhero shit isn't "dumbing down" American culture, it's that people are "dumbing up" their superheroes to be 'gritty' and 'realistic' so they don't have to grapple with the reality that they're taking their toys too fucking seriously
Good observation. I remember for a while a few years back people loved making fun of the 60s Batman TV show (the one with Adam West). Yeah it was bad and corny to an adult but the show was meant for kids. If you tried to make a modern "gritty" superhero movie in the 60s your movie would have gotten laughed out of the theater. Like if someone made a gritty live action version of Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood today...
Yeah it was bad and corny to an adult
Honestly, it was really funny to an adult, at least ones who don't take superheroes deathly seriously
I just watched the ‘60s Batman movie and it was honestly the most fun I’ve ever had watching a Batman movie. It’s goddamn art.
That's exactly my problem with any "realistic" superhero movie. Batman is inherently not realistic or serious because, and I cannot stress this enough, He Is A Man Dressed Like A Bat. That's it, full stop, there is no way I can take him seriously. People are like this with every comic book property, it's insane. I'm not pretending I don't like comics or fantastic stories, but I am certainly not watching them for their realness.
Doom is the fucking head of state of Latveria and Magneto is a German Jew. Why the fuck would they react like this?
Comic book writers a bunch of hack frauds.
Worse shit than 9/11 happens in comic books every month. These guys should all be completely numb to a peasly 3,000 deaths.
Someone should write an issue where Magneto joins Hamas. That would own.
I think Zionism (and as he's a villain, implict anti-Zionist messaging) is a big part of Magneto's character already.
One of his core beliefs is that mutants and human's can't coexist peacefully so mutants need their own ethnostate/to exterminate the human race.
There's even an explict Israel analogue in Genosha, the evil mutant ethnostate he blackmails the UN into giving him then does a genocide in.
TBH I think that's less to the credit of Magneto and more a major point against the writers.
Presenting the Israel analogue as necessary and liberating (the
jewsmutants were being oppressed by the locals so they're justified making an apartheid state for safety/retaliation!) is straight up Zionist propaganda and a massive yikes.Cable would also build a future communist utopia in the ocean that was a sanctuary for mutants (but not exclusive, normal humans, many who were refugees were welcomed)
:pog-dolphin: WTF i love too many pouches guy now
He's also canonically a Jewish Holocaust survivor, right? So that would be kinda wild.
I could take a world map, throw a dart at it, and then look up a mass atrocity the US committed that killed more people than 9/11 in that place.
No, it's the reprint
Pretty sure the original popped out the very next week
Isn't magneto a mutant supremacist who thinks the humans should be genocided? The fuck would he care that some people got owned in the imperial core?
Isn’t magneto a mutant supremacist who thinks the humans should be genocided?
Eh...as with most situations like this: it really depends on who the writer is and what era you're talking about. Sometimes he's mask off mutant supremacist. Often times its framed less that he thinks non-mutants are inferior and more that he views coexistence as being inevitably doomed to failure based on all history and evidence and wants to end the war swiftly and decisively.
...either way, if Mutants and Magneto actually existed in the real world it should basically go without saying he would have a correct diagnosis on what the world trade center and global finance capitalism was doing to his kind. Dude would have torn the damn things down himself years ago.
Edit: Oh yeah, and Dr. Doom crying can only be explained as pure narcissistic jealousy Doom himself couldn't do this level of damage himself with all his sciency scorcery know how.
Dude would have torn the damn things down himself years ago.
Yeah seriously. I don't think Magneto would be crying any tears over a pillar of planet killing global finance coming down.
""innocents""
Not that I don't doubt SOME of the people in the WTC were innocents, like the cleaners, but there were also a lot of bougie finance-capital fucks in there and that's the real reason it matters to America.
I really like the image of Jon Arbuckle mourning 9/11 surrounded by marvel supervillains. Here's a man that can control metal with his mind, and this guy has a cat. they join together to weep.
I mean, don't forget the Garfield comic that came out the day before 9/11, so adding Jon Arbuckle in instead would have many layers to it.
Fucking love how Dr. Octopus is there
Especially because in a few years he attempts to kill 80% of all human life
I was going to say. Don't these guys knock over a skyscraper every other week?
I know Dr. Doom's more of a tyrant than a murderer, but the Kingpin has definitely killed people for fun and profit
Magneto wavers depending on the writers, sometimes he's a well-intentioned separatist and Nazi Hunter and sometimes he's putting people into gas chambers because you know, comics
Oh yeah, I get emotional about the death of innocents. We're talking about Palestinian kids right? Or any of the other countless victims of US military blood lust in the name of profit.
And Thanos changed his spacebook profile picture on that day. Really makes you feel.
