Typical of the Guardian, this article focuses on Republicans who are refusing to vaccinate rather than people who want the vaccine, but can’t due to America being oppressive to the disadvantaged. Regardless, any uptick in cases is bad news. Here’s hoping Blue Man can fix it again.:DaBiden:
Our problem in my state is that parts of Eastern Oregon have less than one person per square mile and maybe a single healthcare clinic serves 2500 people for a distance of 200 square miles. Parts of the interior west are mind bendingly desolate of civilization, it is like the Australian outback out there. You'll see more feral rabbits than people.
The people that want the vaccine have it afaik. The issue is that vaccination is a culture war issue. As much as "working from a common set of facts" can be used to brow beat people against questioning narratives around policing and foreign policy, it would be really nice if the population did for stuff like vaccination, lol.
As of a month ago, the number of people who wanted it but for a number of reasons couldn’t get it matched the anti-vaxxers. Progress will have been made, but I’m cautious to wave away systemic healthcare issues with placing blame on individuals not wanting a shot, when barriers still stand in the way for many people.
Look at the population density maps of some states and then realize that since there is no state-run hospitals in the US that most of the rural folk are depending upon pharmacies that might be 100+ miles away.
Here is an Oregon density map . Some of those towns of 500 people depend on a Walmart for everything, and it can be hours away.
At least around where I'm at it seems like a bit of confusion on where to go, which places are "by appointment only" and which places are walk up. There's a messy mix of online, app based, or old school telephone means of finding which places has what vaccines and when.
Like, the local Veterans Administration send out an email that I got saying, "sign up and we'll let you know when you can come in to get a shot." I never got any response back and its been a few months. Though it looks like there is something set up in the parking lot for a walk/drive up vaccinations. A pharmacy that is local has a website but has been showing a "waiting for vaccines" up until a few weeks ago and it is by appointment only.
So I wound up getting the first vaccine at a Walmart and then the last one at the local pharmacy.
Not yet, but it's likely to lead to the escape variant that's sure to come.
I believe there was a study recently of 42 delta deaths, and 28% were fully vaccinated. Obviously 42 is a very small sample size, and I dont think it delved into any contributing factors those 28% may have had, but that gives you an idea of how fucking deadly this thing esp if its allowed to circulate in a half-not-even-fully vaccinated population
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57441677 article links to it
33,000 confirmed cases. 233 hospitalizations. 42 deaths. 12 fully vaccinated. 12 fully vaccinated people of 33,000 dying is not a cause for huge alarm.
Obviously I'm not saying that the Delta variant shouldn't be a major cause for concern, but your chances are extremely good if you've gotten the vaccine.
That's still roughly 2x as many vaccinated people dying as from the previous strain
It seems to be a double death/hospitalization rate for all categories. 3% fatality rate of 60 million unvaxxed Americans is... 1.8 million. Wuh oh
Very roughly. They're not really at comparable stages in their spread, and the predictive power of clinical studies are not great. What we know for sure, is the Delta virus is a more transmissible mutant, which is basically what one would expect given the literature about variants. But dominant variants also trend towards having medium virulence too as that is the optimized evolutionary strategy. So it's unlikely that any of these dominant variants will develop into super killer strains.
Obviously 42 is a very small sample size
it's not lol
Just how many people in America who want it can't get it at this point? It can't be too high of a number. It's been pretty available for a while now.
About a month ago the number was about 30 million people, so somewhere between Poland or Romania in scale. Not sure where it is now, but many people are simply scared of bills, side effects and missing work, or just can’t get to vaccination sites.
“As incentives have lost their impact.”
Jagoff the incentives never worked! You just said there was an increase when it happened to coincide with lowering the age to 12. Fuck around with numbers and get disappointed real quick.
"Two Americas" will only emerge because that's what the ruling class wants. This whole vaccination situation has given them yet another way to split the population and get us to fight amongst ourselves.
I can already picture it now - climate refugees being turned away because of vaccination status while a bunch of liberals tell us how it was unfortunate but necessary because they posed a risk to public health.
:think-about-it:
Your comment has also just made me realized that we’re probably just a couple of years away from “apartheid” being deemed an anti-Semitic term, due to its use in attacking progressive Israeli policy.
Yeah, banning the Chinese, Cuban, and Russian vaccines from eligibility is probably going to be way more effective at enforcing immigration and the submission of Mexico than any border wall.
Biden is going to get credit for what was inevitable: most of the country eventually getting vaccinated when the vaccine became available. Who wants to bet he'll get blame for failing to get the 25-30% of holdouts to vaccinate? You know, the actually difficult part?
I’m sure Trump or his anointed successor will be able to capitalize on an escape variant, if/when one emerges. The way the libs have conceded to the lab leak conspiracy theory has already given him ammo along the lines of “folks, they mocked me, but guess what, I was right”.
Just thought about that. Would probably give the Q crowd another shot in the arm to have that validated.
How can vaccinated rates drop?
It's not like people can get unvaccinated.
like techinically the vaccination rates drop every time a person is born but i think they just did not use the right term here
If they only got the first vaccine it might, depending on how they track it.
