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You guys are a bunch of bullying assholes, and the bullying worked. I'm a fucking vegan now because meat consumption is irreconcilable with communism. You suck. Thanks.
It’s pretty much inevitable that you become vegan when you take the blinders off. You simply can’t reconcile the cruelty imposed on animals while also advocating for the tenets of communism, unless you’re just LARPing of course.
glad you're fucking off. Sort by subscribed, don't let the door hit you on the way out
You don't get it because you're a larping asswipe. You can't be a leftist and rapist.
Hexbear omnis: Look how cute these new emojis are :chicken-bop: :bird-bouncy: :duck-dance:
Hexbear vegans: Yeah, aren't animals great?
Hexbear omnis: I love animals! literally eating a chicken
If anyone wants to imagine this is some sort of struggle session, maybe realize the oppression and exploitation you're forcing on animals while using capitalism as an excuse to do nothing.
"STAY IN YOUR COMM" the carnists say
y'all can keep hate reading our posts, but we'll just keep calling you reactionaries :tofu-cool:
lol I thought this was gonna be about being terminally online and not joining an actual org/organizing your workplace
Berating other leftists? You mean advocating for animal lives because there is no reason for us to exploit them?
You can give birth control to laying breeds, so they won't lay near as much.
How bout sending it all free to people in need? Doesn't really create a market, but uses the whole animal for a good thing
The unfortunate reality is that we'd have to let them go extinct, not force them to be extinct, but they are not genetically predisposed to surviving in the wild, and even if they were, just releasing billions of large grazing mammals would destroy entire ecosystems.
Ideally we could relinquish some of our human cities back to the wild to create a sanctuary for them, but that's a wild ideal to imagine.
That would be the ideal, if we can provide them enough territory that doesn't destroy other ecosystems.
The unfortunate reality is that we’d have to let them go extinct
Seems inconsistent with the idea that animal lives matter as much as human lives.
I don't think anybody was suggesting that you or anyone artificially inanimate anything in that hypothetical future. It's a weird argument to make.
Okay. Good points.
Still weird to bring up artificial insemination in this context, though.
Okay, what if we genetically mutated human lives to the point where they can't survive outside of a certain environment with a certain degree of "care"?
Yeah this is a good analogy because there's literally zero difference between a wolf and a human :dril:
Just scroll down. I've literally only ever used this site on mobile, even when I was a site mod
That's where the rules are, and probably the answers to most of your questions too. Are you vegan?
Same thing that happens to them now. They'll get slaughtered and eaten or milked until their so nutrient deficient that they need to be put down. The difference is, they won't be replaced with more.
I read the text as "Norwegian leftists" and thought it was a dunk on workers in the imperial core.
So if I'm at work and there's a bunch of beef jerky and other non vegan snacks here that were brought in but have been mostly ignored, should I throw them away? Is that a better use of those products than eating them or donating them?
What even kind of question is this?
Are you asking what to do if you forget to feed yourself? That's your responsibility.
My question is: if the animal has already been killed, is it better to eat that animal or throw it in the trash?
If the animal has been killed, give them a proper burial. Don't commodify their corpse as a snack.
So I should bury the the beef jerky? Rather than donate it to the some local homeless folks or other mutual aid?
If someone raped and murdered me, would it be wasteful not to donate my corpse to homeless folks?
I'm not saying we should eat people, but if it came to it and my body could keep people from going hungry, dig in.
Yeah, that's called consent. Animals that we rape and murder for their labor and flesh did not consent to any of that. It's not food, it's violence.
Besides, it's a leading question you pose. You can donate food (read: from plants) to folks instead of corpses.
I encourage you to go read my pinned post of vegan marxist theory, and also go read the resources in the sidebar.
If you're going to organize food for your local homeless folks or other people in need of mutual aid, you're going to give them beef jerky? As opposed to actual nutritionally dense food?
Fuck outta here with your bad faith arguments.
Lord almighty, I'm using an example of something that's already existing, is free, and available. You know most people with limited access to food don't have a lot of options for nutritionally dense food, let alone vegan choices right? Have you ever been to what passes for a market in a food desert?
This was posed as an earnest question but maybe it didn't come through over the internet. So seriously: what do I do in this case?
Animals aren't products, nor should they be treated as commodities. If someone raped and tortured me, then murdered me for my flesh, would it be wasteful not to eat my corpse? No, because I'm not a commodity, nor do I consent to being one.
So throwing in the trash is better? That's what I'm getting at here.
Animals are people. Everyone who disagrees can fuck off. Any other populations or minorities for which you'd like to discuss if they should be free to oppress? In the marketplace of ideas maybe?
