• WhoaSlowDownMaurice [they/them, undecided]
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        3 years ago

        Nah, they just are anti Iraq War, but even then that's because that turned into (from their perspective) a complete quagmire that America hasn't won. They of course ignore the harm Iraq has suffered to come to this conclusion. Any future war, thought, yeah, they'd probably be all over it. When the Iraq War started, though, those same people where more than likely all for it.

          • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Alex Jones no longer has any staunch positions except for "no gun control." He'd talk himself into supporting anything else the next fascist decides to do.

          • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I'm not super well versed in current right wing psychology but I think it's because those types consider themselves paleoconservatives, especially the ones who lean into pseudo-intellectualism. They at least use the name as a dogwhistle for fascism, I remember in one of the subreddits that got banned with chapo they were openly discussing how as fascists they could tell other people they were paleoconservatives as a cover. I guess once you buy into that identity you somehow end up being anti war, to own the (((neocons))).

      • Jeff_Benzos [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Ehhh, every conservative that I know who liked trump because they thought that hillary would a new war in the middle east were practically begging for a war in Iran after they bombed Soleimani. Their anti-war stances, like most of their stances, are entirely dependent on whether it's their guy's war or the other guy's war

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      3 years ago

      Before Trump swallowed the entire american right like a big sexy dinosaur boy, Garrison was a libertarian oriented conspiracy theorist type. I'm pretty sure he's a 9/11 truther.

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The fun reality is that America has only won a couple of wars. America cannot claim to have fully won either of the World Wars, the Korean War ended in stalemate, and Vietnam the USA was forced to withdraw. Punitive police actions, like shooting a bunch of Filipino villagers on Mindanao or that time the USA invaded Haiti can hardly be called wars. The Spanish-American war was a war between colonial powers that didn't take place on either of the home lands. The Mexican-American war was a naked land grab, so I'll call it half a war. So the USA has the Revolutionary War and the Civil War. The "war of 1812" was a sideshow to Napoleon's wars in Europe. It was more like "Revolutionary War Round Two: Why Not? Edition"

        • joseph [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          IMO the Korean War is technically still a W for imperialists because it ultimately maintained the existence of the ROK. Stalemate on the battlefield, but the fact that a Capitalist Korea still exists is a major positive in the eyes of the Empire.

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  • stigsbandit34z [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I truly can't understand how conservatives today can get away with pretending that they were anti-iraq war. For fuck's sake, US had media about how we were going to bomb the fuck out of iraqis

    Lmao at this post hoc garbage

    • bobavakian [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's not just conservatives or even just politicians. A large majority of the country supported going to war but have memory holed what those times were really like, ask people now and the majority will say they opposed it.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I will give Garrisson this one. He has been consistently anti-war. Everything he makes about war almost looks like a leftist comic.

    • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Eh Garrison was probably a Ron Paul wacko from the beginning. I doubt he supported the Iraq War.

      • elpaso [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Oh he absolutely is. He went for Rand Paul in 2016 until he got on the Trump Train.

        His arc is absolutely wild and is a good case of libertarians going down the fascist hole because of racism.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The 9/11 suitcase is whatever and the "it's a big club" isn't supposed to be used like this, but close enough, Ben.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I went to the memorial once, since my new Yorker family seemed traumatized and I wanted to understand, unpoisoned by internet discourse.

        I noped the fuck out when I realized that the memorial had a gift shop.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Why is santa wearing that weird circle hat this is so confusing ben!! goddamit i want to get the joke but i have no idea what santa has to do with it