I'm still mad at Stewart for that. Its been years since his show so I was able to remember him as a well meaning lib, it hurt to see him pushing state propaganda like that
oh I was thinking of Oliver, and was surprised that he would say it. wrong John night show host
Hmm not sure on this. I'll wait to see what my favorite Breadtuber says.
looking forward to hearing my favorite BreadTuber, Vaush, give his take on these facts in between saying the n word
Its true that its from a lab! Xi was visiting the Wuhan lab and was bragging about his discus throwing skills, so when the scientists asked for a demonstration, he grabbed a nearby Petri dish and tossed it. It flew out the window. Xi turned around only to see all the scientists were staring at him in horror. When he asked why, it was revealed that the Petri dish he threw contained a new type of virus they were developing. As everyone rushed to the window to see where it had landed, they could only watch as someone who thought it was an oyster slurp up all of the material in it. Xi turned back to the scientists and uttered two words. “Uh oh”
Can't wait for the Dems who screamed about Trump spewing lab leak bullshit to go after the Biden admin after this finding.
This is why Biden was so careful about the wording. They all know the effect it has on spreading misinformation regardless and yet by focusing on the "possibilities", they create a situation where by all means they aren't technically wrong.
And at the end of the day they aren't technically wrong. There's always a possibility of some sort of lab leak that occurred, just that this possibility isn't supported by any actual existing evidence.
Not saying I care either way, but a virus of natural origin could still have leaked from the lab
Point is, there's no evidence for it. It could have originated in the US. Or the UK. Or fucking wherever. Trump/Biden parrot it to shift blame from their administrations and stoke that racism because China bad.
I can’t believe the ebil CCP created a naturally occurring virus and then forced our governments to bungle their responses, those dastardly motherfuckers!
Also you when Fort Detrick got shut down by the CDC in 2019 for terrible containment procedures
US scientist at Fort Detrick patented a technique for manipulating coronaviruses and making them appear naturally occurring
link?
Origins are not scientifically insignificant they are a very important part of figuring out how to better predict and prevent future occurrences. In particular they tell us where earlier detection failed. Origin research would be occurring in earnest regardless of whether or not it were something various people wanted to use politically, you just wouldn't hear about it because nobody would be putting it in the news.
Well actual scientists don't seem to be falling for the grift en masse yet, so specifically looking at consensus of experts and not journalists with an axe to grind seems promising.
I mean scientist is unlikely to go into wet market, but sure, it’s inherently disprovable theory
Class, but of course it could be there was some scientist hungry for some live animals/wanted to make some observations. Un-disprovable as I’ve said, but the scientist would continue infect at work presumably (as covid infection rate is out of this world), so it would look (I think) differently
But then you sit in the office, eat in cafeteria, sit in your home :ohnoes:
Well second part is mutation part, but it’s more involved
Yeah I can't say I follow that logic either. I thought I was on the other covid news thread of the day tbh. I think that one was much more thorough in giving an argument against the lab leak theory. This in particular is written weird, and is about a study that hasn't gone to peer review yet.
I think both sides make valid points. Can we compromise and agree that it did originate naturally, but did so in a lab?
Here's a link to the pre-print LINK
Just skimmed it, but here's an argument that I never heard before:
"... laboratory escape scenario involves accidental infection in the course of serial passage of a SARSr-CoV in common laboratory animals such as mice. However, early SARSCoV-2 isolates were unable to infect wild-type mice."
It then goes on about a protein that is necessary for mouse infection which only developed in later variants of the virus, but wasn't in the initial outbreak.
