Seen incels say to one another "don't worry brother were both gonna make it and get a cream colored white girl someday" creepy as that sounds.

Then you have instances like Elliot Rodger who drones on and on about blonde white women.

Is it because these are the types of women they see as having rejected them in high school? The blonde cheerleader type?

    • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Even incels who aren't white seem to have a weird fascination with white women.

      Though I think I answered my own question in that it's probably due to lingering effects of colonialism and whites being broadcast everywhere as the definition of what is attractive

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      They are. But they’re also self identifying as incels or have sympathy with them. They’re willing to murder a bunch of random white people because they love the white race so much

  • oregoncom [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Elliot Rogers was the result of a white supremacist white guy marrying and Asian woman. This made him insecure because about his looks for obvious reasons. He's an incel because of racism, not the other way around.

    Also plenty of incels are obsessed with Asian women. I've met many of them in real life.

  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    I don't understand how you can know enough to ask this question without understanding that most anglophone-internet incels are so racist they make the Klan look like a HOA.

      • fuzzy
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        11 months ago

        i've never NOT seen the klan and the HOA in the same picture

  • carpoftruth [any, any]
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    11 months ago

    Incel "theory" is rife with male hierarchy, and misogyny and valuation/objectification is a major part of male hierarchy. White women are at the top of the value list because of racism

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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    11 months ago

    Cultural conditioning to perceive Caucasian women as the ethno-hetero-normative standard in life. American cultural hegemony has also spread this cultural perception world-wide as a side-effect of the expansion of American Capital into foreign markets.

    I believe a simpler way to put this, quoting Bambu, is that the standard of beauty is truly rooted in whiteface

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Bambu spits truth. Really wish we had his "AK crossed with a machete" logo as an emoji.

  • thirtymilliondeadfish [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    you mean my hierarchical aspirations toward gender also extend to race?

    no, it must be the females whom are wrong

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    White supremacy causes white incels to feel entitled to white women then feel betrayed and self loathing when they don’t get white girls, and they become murderous when a non white guy dates them

    White supremacy also causes non-white incels to feel entitled and self loathing because they don’t get white girls, and then they become even angrier when girls from their culture/race are put off with that behavior

  • wahwahwah [none/use name]
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    11 months ago

    Non-white incels with debilitating internalized racism. I knew a Latino guy who was basically that way. He got into trouble for racially harassing these two black kids in his grade, which was ironic because his main victim was super pale (imagine Logic or Ice Spice) while he was really dark-skinned Chicano. He was insufferable to listen to, though. The only non-offensive thing he talked about was white girls, which was still pretty gross.

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    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      11 months ago

      There are three types of Sexual Pathology Guys:

      1. Classical fetishist: Wants a white, submissive, whore-and-madonna wife because he believes in the purity of the white race and wants a nuclear family to live off the grid
      2. Nu-Fetishist: Hates white women because they’ve been rejected by them or perceive them as too brainwashed by woke communist/Jewish propaganda and only want 15 inch chad cocks and show their boobs everywhere. Wants an Asian wife because she’s perceived as docile and submissive and conservative. Also wants her to be a whore-and-madonna
      3. Reverse Nu-Fetishist: Hates [their group’s] women because of the same reasons as the Nu-Fetishist, but he prefers white women because she’s perceived as more intelligent and socially valuable

      Notice I didn’t say incel because it’s generally a right wing pathology

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    TV and movies promised them they'd get a wife at some stage and they were generally white women.