• Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    you know, sometimes i feel like a right illiterate rube on this website watching people go off on long threads about shit I have honestly no idea about

    But man am I glad to not have whatever this guy has instead of a brain

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    An example that the first step to understanding centrists is you have to assume the mindset of being really really fucking stupid.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    Posting on an electric mineral about how useless minerals are

    • glingorfel [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      amazingly even the vuvuzela but you have an iphone argument is projection

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    7 months ago

    Ugh lemme guess, he thinks wealth comes from “Innovation” or some similar fairy tale.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      I'm certain he thinks that.

      Imagine somebody replied to him with this link to a Wikipedia section and they gave him a ~200 word baby brain summary so he doesn't have to strain his baby noggin with big words and context and too much information.

      1954 Guatemalan coup d'état

      United Fruit Company lobbying

      He couldn't understand. There's no way to get him to understand.

      How can a fruit company be powerful? They just sell fruit!

      He can't fathom that countries like the US historically and still routinely bully weaker countries and powerful entities allied with US interests benefit greatly. Sometimes it's fruit and other times it might even literally be "digging up minerals".

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      7 months ago

      Libs, 15 years ago - "Yeah, neo-colonialism is bad. But hey, what can you do? Vote with your wallet."

      Libs today - "Neo-Colonialism is based actually."

      • DrCrustacean [any]
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        7 months ago

        Libs today don't think neocolonialism exists, that's kinda OOP's whole deal (although it'd be easy to miss as the only defense of this idea he gives us "it's dumb if you think it's real"). They think colonialism was bad but the Good Guys in the West ended it a hundred or so years ago and now the third world is poor because they have bad ideas/governments.

        You have to remember that liberals are idealists. As in, they believe that material conditions are caused by ideology. The West has better ideas and better systems of governance, so it's more prosperous. They can't believe that wealth in the imperial core comes from extraction in the global south because that means that the liberal ideology stems from the material conditions of global dominance and hegemony and not the other way around.

        "Neo-Colonialism is based" is what they'll be saying after they've been scratched

    • borlax [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Innovation that uses minerals and rare earth metals, i.e. computers and other electronics.

      These people legitimately think that we are pulling innovation out of thin air without resources to support it.

  • Bobson_Dugnutt [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I guess all those gold crucifixes in European churches just appeared out of thin air

    Everything in the British Museum was bought and paid for in a totally consensual and mutually beneficial exchange

    America became the richest country in human history because of the Protestant work ethic

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Protestant work ethic is that others should work hard so I don’t have to. It’s slave driver ethic, management ethic, the ethic of bourgies who glorify the ideal of “hard work” as a reward in-and-of-itself (so compensation can be reduced)

      • CTHlurker [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        I've legitimately had to deprogram the whole "protestant work ethic" from a couple of coworkers and you could fucking see the gears turn in their heads when I pointed out all the ways in which it was incredibly wrong. Also apparently a lot of people in Scandinavia sort of just assumes that France is protestant, since France is rich and works hard, therefore they must be protestant.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    7 months ago

    Liberals literally have no conception of the material world and its interconnections and frankly that's hilarious, guarantees they're gonna blow it up

    To them the world is made out of vibes and secret race blood quanta

  • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    this man could read if he chose British liberal texts from 200 years ago that say "we have enriched ourselves by stealing all of the colonies stuff" at no point was this a secret

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Macron: without Africa, there would be no France

      Noah Bilitytoselfcrit: no, actually, I think France would do just fine since Africa's all the way over there anyway. It would cost more to boat rocks here than the rocks would be worth, I'm pretty sure.

  • edge [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I want to know where he thinks the wealth of nations comes from and how it doesn’t involve extraction of minerals and other resources.

    “Innovation”? A vast majority of innovations use metal in some form. Modern innovations are mostly digital, and computers use many metals.

    A bigger army? That’s a lot of metal needed for those guns.

    From their banking system? Money isn’t real, the only reason it works is because it’s backed with power. See above.

    Trade? Trade of what, Noah, fucking aqua?

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      His take actually helps me understand why libs keep screeching for decoupling with China as if it wouldn't crash the entire world economy. They don't think that things are made out of raw materials and labor.

      • TheCaconym [any]
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        7 months ago

        Beyond this dork, this is genuinely what modern economists claim to continue defending endless growth in the face of climate change: that growth itself will decouple from its environmental effects / from actual resources extraction and exploitation (and all that means for local ecosystems). As far as I can tell it is treated as absolute truth - almost as if it's common sense - by these freaks.

      • NPa [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        Cutting off your face to spite your nose

    • Galli [comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      the wealth of nations comes from taking in each other's washing

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I have never seen this guy say anything that was not monumentally stupid and very easily disproven

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      7 months ago

      His take on how to bring peace to Gaza was amazing. I assume he said to himself "I'll figure out this Gaza thing. I don't know anything about it but what's to know! I'll google and then write a few thousand words." And he did. I only scanned it very quickly but his take was that after the war Gaza would be able to rebuild itself via tourism. I don't think he googled very hard.

      ---

      Ninja edit

      Shit. Neither archive.today nor achive.org have a full copy. That's a shame. I, myself, should have put it into archive.today when I had the chance. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

      It's behind a paywall - Economic possibilities for Gaza - by Noah Smith

  • captcha [any]
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    7 months ago

    Complete mystification of the economy. Wealth comes from trading a briefcase back and forth.

    • Alisu [they/them]
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      7 months ago

      Yea and they have to share it between all of them

      • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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        7 months ago

        and it's a merit-based sharing system, not equal turns, but they need the neuron to decide who deserves the neuron

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          The neuron I am using says that I should hold on to the neuron. Work harder and maybe one day you will be someone who should have it.

  • flan [they/them]
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    7 months ago

    does this guy think we're paying a fair price for resources and labor?

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Um akshully sweety a "fair" price is just what the Invisible Hand of the Free Market (Low Interest Rates Be Upon Him) sets as a price.

    • Vingst [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Paying the market rate for comprador bureacrats and politicians.

    • iie [they/them, he/him]
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      7 months ago

      this guy thinks there's no such thing as labor at all, and the extraction is just resources

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]M
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    7 months ago

    My brain made a few quick thoughts here and my conclusion is that this is the sort of person who would say "ah, but have you considered that people = money?"

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    7 months ago

    Me scrolling Hexbear late at night: I should be more mindful about exposing myself to bad takes, its not good for my mental health.

    Me seeing your title: Real shit???lt-dbyf-dubois