Like I know that, realistically speaking, they're not the worst results of imperialism and colonialism, but suits are just so boring, and their universality is representative of the results of imperialism in a clear and easy to see way. Like why did the evils of imperialism have to be accompanied by boring suits.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    In my socialist dreamworld everyone can just wear a t-shirt and jeans or whatever tf they want because dress codes are pointless.

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    4 years ago

    I want to see PMC types explain how any sort of dress code other than "you have to at least wear some sort of top and some sort of pants i.e. jeans and t-shirt actually incraseses productivity even one iota.

      • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        It's about power and control, not efficiency. Same as the 8 hour workday and not working from home. Keeping workers uncomfortable, stripping them of their individuality to further alienate them from their labour, and manufacturing some sense of 'company unity' are the goals of dress codes. Exhausted, beaten down workers don't organise, don't pay attention to politics, etc.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah this. Anyone who thinks capitalists ruthlessly pursue money... aren't paying attention. They want to get rich, but a lot of them are only in it for the social domination. You should always assume that the emotional need for control is the primary motivating factor behind your boss's action unless proven otherwise.

          • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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            4 years ago

            It's both tbh, because they go hand in hand. That's the entire reason for capitalist accumulation, after all; the contradiction between money's quality of unlimited power, and its quantitative limitations.

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    4 years ago

    I love suits but i'm a huge dyke so I look great in them and I have an easier time getting away with fun fabric patterns, and it's still a little bit subversive for me to wear them

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        4 years ago

        chase your dreams, just have to be mindful that it'll be easier for you to tread into fuckboy and/or barbecue dad territory

  • Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    Honestly I kind of like suits. The people in them generally suck though

    • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I don't mind suits so much by themselves. My issue with them is their omnipresence and universality in our society.

      • QuillQuote [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Agreed, but the one time I wore a 'suit' I did like how fancy and dapper I felt

  • Phish [he/him, any]
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    4 years ago

    The worst part is how much more respect I get when I wear a suit vs like a tie dye. Or when I wear no pants.

  • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Suits are like driving: fun when it's a choice, awful when it's a requirement

    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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      4 years ago

      I mean technically anything I'm wearing is a dorky professor look but it's always nice when you can manage to sync it will cultural signifiers.

  • hazefoley [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I don't have to wear suits for work or anything so I actually do enjoy dressing up for weddings and stuff.

    • Oxbinder [any]
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      4 years ago

      last one I got at a thrift shop for like $12 fit great and fooled everyone. I did enjoy that.

    • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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      If I'd known so many people would comment I would have explained more. I don't mean that suits in and of themselves are boring. What makes them boring to me is their universality; they've become the default male 'formal' clothing in basically every country on Earth, due to imperialism. So if you were to take one male from every country, and tell them to dress formally, they'd all be wearing basically the same clothes. I think what would be interesting is different people wearing different clothes. Imagine how the UN would look, for example, if every delegate wore their culture's (not country, because many countries are composed of several nations) traditional/formal clothes, rather then basically everyone wearing a black/blue/grey/tan suit.

      edit: plus on a less trivial level, there's probably something to say about colonialism of the mind when almost every culture starts identifying success/formality/wealth/power/etc with western clothing, rather than their own traditional clothing.

      • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Indian politicians tend to wear Indian formal wear even while on international trips. I do agree it stands out in a crowd of suits

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Imagine how the UN would look, for example, if every delegate wore their culture’s (not country, because many countries are composed of several nations) traditional/formal clothes, rather then basically everyone wearing a black/blue/grey/tan suit.

        The Papua New Guinea delegate wore traditional dress once if I remember right

  • Owl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I only have to wear them to fancy parties so I like them. Any work dress code that's not directly tied to health and safety concerns is a tool of oppression, of course. If you have to wear a suit to work that's bullshit.

    Also, I'm annoyed by how suits are multiple layers up top and then usually thin pants. Feels like a missed opportunity for fancy pants. Also my legs get cold way easier than my torso does, who designed that.