Also Europeans have access to household appliances. Why do Americans think Europeans don't have most amenities that Americans do? Just because the market is small for a few of them? Insane thinking.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      My parents have like 3 drawers filled with random useless kitchen gadgets. "Reasonable" "moderates" think this is justification for employees to never have vacation time.

      • tetrachloride [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        One piece of good advice that I found on reddit, I think in an AMA with Alton Brown, is to never buy single-purpose kitchen tools that do something that you can reasonably accomplish with a tool you already have, like a knife. Exceptions apply of course but it's a good general rule.

      • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        yeah ofc it's just bullshit to say "yeah, well, you don't have a tumble dryer and I didn't even WANT free healthcare anyways :wojak-nooo: "

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    3 years ago

    how bad at numbers do you have to be to trade university tution for an icecube machine??? :agony-shivering:

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    American exceptionalists use some of the weirdest shit to justify their exceptionalism. Remember reading someone that complained that European cities didn't have enough malls and chain restaurants.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Ironic, I consider dining and shopping to be a much more pleasant experience in Europe. Like the town my parents are from has a small pedestrian only area which is where a ton of shops, cafes, and restaurants are located, which I've always thought it just so much better than pretending that the Starbucks on a busy intersection is a pleasant location.

  • GrafZahl [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Me, 150 years ago, stomping on water in the bathtub for 6 hours every morning, until my cold feet finally cooled the water enough to produce 3 ice cubes. My family will survive another day.

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    3 years ago

    household appliances are modernity

    Lmao. My grandma once told me that the household washing machine was one of the greatest thing that ever happened for women's freedom and that shit was pretty awful beforehand, but any of this other stuff? Unnecessary. I've never had a dishwasher or this fancy (and presumably fictional) american icecube machine, and i've lived without a dryer, but somehow, wildly enough, I survived.

    Anyway, its weird, fucked up, and awful for the enviroment/soul how americans have been taught to only contextualise the world through consoooomerism.

    • vccx [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Americans don't clean the ice cube maker in their fridges, it's genuinely gross

    • raven [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The ice cube maker takes up 1/6th of your freezer storage area and breaks down within 2 months of owning it. Filling an ice cube tray takes literally 30 seconds and 1/10th of the freezer space of an ice cube maker.

      • tetrachloride [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        breaks down within 2 months

        The ones in the door, maybe. The ones that are just in the freezer are pretty reliable.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      As with any comparison the only way to make America seem good is to make comparison to the absolute poorest country you get away with rhetorically. He's banking on Americans not knowing there's a difference between Germany/France/Sweden and Spain/Greece/Albania.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean in Greece most people don't have tumble dryers, but it's not because we're poor (although we are), rich people often don't have them either because it's just not one of these things people often think necessary. I think Americans tend to have more of a knack about these sorts of things. Might also have to do with the fact that houses are larger there on average so you can put more mildly useful stuff in them.

  • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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    3 years ago

    I like how he's doing a Reddit-esque "I freaking love science" diatribe but for this lazy mundane bullshit that saves maybe 10 minutes of work per week for your average abled person.

    • starvedhystericnudes [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      86% of American homes

      The last time I lived in a place with in unit laundry or a fucking dishwasher was with my fucking parents. But also no healthcare.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Does he think Europeans don't have freezers? That's what he's talking about, right? Or do Americans have some kind of coal or gasoline powered carbon monoxide spewing contraption with a v8 engine stuck on it they only use to make ice cubes

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Some fridges can be hooked up to the waterline and have a little ice dispenser, also there are apparently independent ice cube machines (which someone proudly posted in the replies). Like the fridge thing is a fine convenience, the stand alone device is insane to me. It just uses up space and energy to fulfill the purpose of an ice tray.

        • tetrachloride [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          My experience is the exact opposite. Ice cube makers (just the thing in the freezer, no dispenser on the front) have been a standard feature in every (new build, suburban Texas) apartment I've lived in since leaving the nest.

              • starvedhystericnudes [she/her]
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                3 years ago

                There are good parts.actually, even the time I lived (rented room) in a suburban house, there was no ice maker or dish washer. Huh.

                • tetrachloride [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  I think it's because Texas is just built around the same kind of ideology that produced this tweet.

                  Look how good we got it here, an ice maker in every apartment!

                  • starvedhystericnudes [she/her]
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                    3 years ago

                    Also you have space and gadgets and free public toilets and pretending you're not a cyberpunk dystopia whose overlords literally wank to 'neuromancer' instead of a thin vineer of society and trees without queer and/or brown people hanging in them that we have.

    • Kaputnik [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I think he's talking about that thing on the front of bougie fridges that spews out ice when you put a glass in it

  • im_smoke [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It for real takes me 1 minute to fill up the ice cube tray to give us all the ice we need in the place for a week, I live in :amerikkka:. No ice cube making fancy ass fridge.

  • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Ice cuber makers usually imply a through-door dispenser, which constantly leak cold air and fuck up the efficiency of the refrigerator. This also usually implies a divergence from the ideal setup, which is freezer-on-top designs. All others are also far less efficient, requiring either a dedicated ice-only freezer portion just for ice or a side-by-side design with inefficient lateral transfer of cooled air.

    In short, we should all be getting "normal" refrigerators at a systemic level, barring reasonable exceptions for things like disability. An ecosocialist planned economy would mandate this, among other things.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      100% behind this comment, and not just because I'm too lazy to set up a waterline to my fridge.

      • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Hell yeah water lines are annoying as shit, too. Aside from them breaking fairly often, you've now gotta buy proprietary, monopolized water filters.

        Also unless you're using a bunch of ice every day they melt and refreeze into an evil network of ice globs.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Aren't the most efficient ones the ones that are like a chest on the floor?

      • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        That's the most energy efficient consumer community freezer option, definitely. If you want both a freezer and refrigerator, then I'm not sure because we would need to account for the additional production and redundant cooling systems vs. energy savings from the better cool air retaining abilities of both (and whether they're top opening vs side opening). I would suspect that your standard freezer-top combo is probably the best if it has enough space for your needs and then adding a top-open chest freezer if you need more freezer space.

  • D61 [any]
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    3 years ago

    YOU CAN HAVE BOTH.

    THERE IS NO COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE TWO, ENTIRELY UNRELATED THINGS!

    AAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

    YOU CAN HAVE BOTH A PLATE TO EAT YOUR FOOD ON... AND... FOOD ON YOUR PLATE!