https://twitter.com/frazierapproves/status/1425131183126482949
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/education/2021/08/10/Pittsburgh-public-schools-pps-officials-may-push-back-first-day-classes-transportation-busing-issues/stories/202108100108
TrashFuture recently talked about some private school bus company that's going to "disrupt" the school bus industry by union busting and gig-ifying drivers:
https://trashfuturepodcast.podbean.com/e/damming-the-amazon-feat-alex-press/
App based drivers license qualifications. Class C, more like see ya
The concept of school buses in itself is insane and a sign of a car dependant nightmare infested hell scape. Good riddance. Motherfucker, everyone bikes to school here, or (rarely) just use public transport which is fucking free for students.
I was biking myself to school and back home from like fourth grade. When you create a shithole where you can barely even safely walk you get insanity like picking children up at home in a fucking BUS, everyday. Fuck, I wonder why Americans have such a high carbon foot print. Oh my god the waste.
Edit: You guys have real America brain on this topic. Sorry but it's true.
Buses are still good for rural schools, I lived 13 miles away from my high school, and there's no way I was gonna be biking down roads where log trucks go screaming by every other minute.
The 'us is big' is the biggest bullshit excuse for your shitty ass infrastructure and society that there is. And it's used for literally everything.
Who the fuck lives 40 miles away from school? what the fuck, lmao. Just build a local town primary school holy shit. My primary school had like 6 classrooms and I had like 10 classmates. It's not an excuse.
You fuckers really stole all that land so you could drive 40 miles to school? What the ever loving fuck.
Oh shit never thought about not living far away from things, guess I just have to vote harder or personally build a school next door and hope teachers show up
Oh shit never thought about not living far away from things
:yes-chad: You live far away from shit because of your shit decadent car culture and insane zoning, that you guys keep defending fiercely btw. You people sound like literal chuds defending this shit. Imagine developing infrastructure and urban planning that works for all people. lmao.
I compared Richmond, VA to a town in my country with about the same demographic and population. They have twice the amount of primary schools as Richmond.
I live far away from shit because it's affordable, I can't afford to live in a city. Nobody here is defending zoning or car culture, you're just imagining a guy and pretending we're all that guy. Imagine blaming people who are just trying to make it month to month for the shitty infrastructure the corporate oligarchs forced us to have like sixty fucking years ago, get a grip.
You live far away from shit because of your shit decadent car culture and insane zoning
and how the fuck is anyone here going to change that?
also putting a chad face next to your comment doesn't make you sound any smarter
Yeah, I tend to agree. Australia has 3 people per km^2 vs the US 35 per km^2, in approximately the same area.
It does have schools that far away from farms but it's fairly rare in the main rural regions with towns every 50km apart at most, and in the real outback where you have cattle stations the size of Belgium they use School of the Air. It's not that hard, you just have to have good planning.
edit: We do have some urban school buses, of course, but they're run by the state and staffed by public employees, and a good chunk of kids take standard services for free. The idea a city could be "out of drivers" is absurd.
"All of the small schools were closed and consolidated into one school" is pretty common in the USA.
Rural areas have cheaper property (and lower property taxes, which is a large part of how schools are paid for in the USA) which means not enough money to maintain schools for fewer and fewer students as families with some money/decent paying jobs move to the cities. This leads to a handful of well off kids and bunch of poor kids needing to be transported to school someway that doesn't leave a bunch of kids pretty much living at school.
From my life, my mom left for work at 4:30~5:00 AM and got back from work around 6PM. Which was a few hours before the bus came by to pick me up and a few hours after I got back home from school. If she were to drive me to school and pick me up from school... I'd probably be picked up by the police or child protective services as I would just always be sitting outside of school, rain, snow, heat, etc.
I mean if you are trying to pick up and transport a lot of people in an area to the same place and theres no rail system then a bus is going to be the best way to do that. Better than everyone driving to school individually which is more common than the bus I believe.
So... mass transit... is bad now?
I'm confused.
Also, a chunk of those kids were being transported 10's of miles away from home to their school. Probably asking a kid to wake up a few extra hours earlier to bike 30 miles to school is kinda ... I don't know... shitty for the kids.
I think their point is that we've designed cities poorly if kids need to be bused 30 miles to school. Sure it's necessary for rural schools, but the post is about Pittsburgh so these are urban/suburban schools we're talking about.
With the slightest amount of planning we could have students within a few miles of a school, and when they're further it's not hard to have the regular transit system pick up the slack.
Yeah, on one hand I get that they were trying to dunk on America's unwillingness to plan for things but the framing just off enough that I felt the need to add some extra context.
If housing were guaranteed and a local population would be willing the change houses as their life situations changed, that'd be pretty cool too.
Many students in my school walked or used public transport because school buses are significantly more expensive.
Wait wait wait, did your school charge for the school bus?
Well, you can't enjoy sane and decent infrastructure, but at least you got to see me ratiod! Won't you look at that. :amerikkka-clap:
When you're totally not mad.
It happens to all of us man, you'll live.
why Americans have such a high carbon foot print
Freedom to be an atomized drone who navigates the marketplace with individual choice
Damn, this is really getting to you all, eh? What fucking bee's nest have I stumbled into. jezus christ.
I've heard School buses are a fucking pain in the dick to drive, that plus having to deal with screaming sperm goblins makes it sound like an extremely stressful job. Plus you gotta watch out for trains
The pay is shit, constant drug testing, and it is always part time.
Who the fuck wants to drive some brats around for $12/hr atm?
Depends on where you live in the US.
Some states average $40-50k a year for bus drivers.
Others are half of that.
https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes533052.htm
from personal experience about 20k where i am at. and you need to commit about 10-11 hrs of your day to it if you can't go home during mid day. it's a fucking scam. needs to be a $30/hr at minimum.
Not all of the school bus drivers were sex pests in my school growing up... But there were enough that the kids did their best to pass around who was to be watched out for...
The time of fucking around is nearing its end. We enter the period of finding out.
It wasn't too long ago that they were pushing for teachers to carry guns. Why not add transportation to their plate while we're at it.
I mean, I think a lot of it is the modern state of Twitter-news. Nobody outside of Pittsburg would ever hear this story, unless it was spotlighted by John Stossel as an argument in favor of home schooling or some bullshit. And, of course, "Things are going normal and good" never makes the news, so its very hard to get an idea of what is happening year-to-year when all you ever year about is the Exceptions without regard to the Rule.
Is this simple incidental mismanagement? Or a systemic national problem that's just bubbling up into view? I'm primed to believe its more a consequence of the big shutdown last year, where demand for (and therefore contract with) bus drivers fell off a cliff. And now we're scrambling to staff back up last minute because that's just how Americans do things.
If it feels like a speed run to collapse, I suspect that's only because we weren't aware of how dysfunctional we've been operating as a society for decades. We may have actually kinda crested in the 70s and now everything looks downhill by comparison. But I'm inclined to believe things have been worse. And I'm also inclined to believe they're far from impossible to make better.
I was friends with someone who worked for a school bus company and it was awful. That unpaid break during the day disrupts everything. It also wasn't enough hours to really live on
Full text of last tweet since it got cut off:
BTW, this isn’t about low wages, per se; it’s about the larger failures of neoliberalism. If these were government jobs with government benefits and job security, people would take them. Instead, we farm essential services to the private sector, and this is the result.
Oh no... now we can't stuff a whole bunch of kids who can't get vaccinated yet in a room during a pandemic. What will we do?
Well according to this tweet it’s actually not Pittsburgh who can hire anyone.
