I'd be more worried about a Weimar style collapse than a USSR one, especially given that the media is in the middle of creating a stab-in-the-back mythos as we speak.
This is why you kill Hitler and ferment revolution before is too late.
figuring out which GOP dipshit is the next hitler is the hard part
if you kill hitler early the strassers probably would have control of the nazi movement
we are going to need more guns and go after the strassers as well.
just go to the beer hall putsch and gun em all down. maybe the cops too. or just go to the bavarian socialist republic and give them a c-130
can we stop at the beer hall putsch before going to the bavarian socialist republic? I really want to shoot Hitler, just once.
If you can time travel you can shoot Hitler a bunch of times and just make sure to do everything right the last time you time travel.
Like that weird Star Trek Discovery episode where Harry Mudd murders Lorca over and over
Just replace the mustard gas he inhaled with something a bit more potent.
yeah, the USA might go more Nazi Germany than dissolution of the USSR
USSR population growed right until dissolution, and then began to decrease.
you could see it in their fashion choices and the way they make their pancakes
Could just mean birthrates and emmigration rates. Those are demographic markers that don't carry racist baggage.
I'm aware, just saying that you can actually look at some demographic data and see trends, just not the demographic data that people from /pol/ look at.
They tend to see demographics as the poison and not the canary.
e.g. "birthrates declined sharply just before and immediately after the collapse of the USSR"
Would be interpreted as "low birthrates causes the collapse of the USSR and women should be inseminated by force to prevent cultural collapse"
Instead of "the conditions that led to the collapse of the USSR created material conditions that made the decision of having a child harder for many people".
It's important to not wholly dismiss demographics as a tool for understanding social dynamics, but don't fall into the trap of believing societal relations are driven by them and not the other way around.
Early deaths started to rise in the USSR in the early 70s, with alcohol abuse being the biggest contributor. That's what they mean by "demographics".
hear me out America collapsing would not have pleasant aftereffects. ISIS is an example of the type of thing to expect after a state collapses
Yeah I'm not excited for KKK to set up their own zones either. But at least they won't be able to fuck with other countries as much anymore.
not exactly the same but close enough that the "it's easy to be an accelerationist when you're not going to be the one being accelerated upon" line is relevant.
Privledge is when you don't want America raping the third world
be nice to each other and explain to each other why you see it as you see it...
you know that is basically true already in large parts of the rural US right?
so when are you starting your anti-racist guerilla army against white supremacy again?
the supply chain doesn't exist as such without the US acting as the world's policeman. people all over the world will certainly notice a difference.
Yeah I agreed with others calling me privileged but no way the supply chain stays the same if the US collapses. It opens up room for AES to breathe and grow. At least that's my hope.
Even that assumes a successor state (or multiple successor states) wouldn't, say, invade countries in the Caribbean.
in either way (especially in the multiple successor states case) the ability of the region formely known as US to project military and imperiallist power all over the worldwould be significantly hampered compared to pre "collapse" levels
Certainly. The odds of a collapsing U.S. or a successor state murder-suiciding another country on the way out seems pretty high, still.
Shit, the New Confederate States will declare war on Cuba, won't they?
me, moving back to europe as america collapses: heheheheh :cat-vibing:
see, thats when i do a power move. i swap back to america, which is probably stable after 20 years of fighting :galaxy-brain:
I’m in the southeast, if the US fragments into a few dozen factions the best case scenario here would likely be a generic republican hellhole, and I don’t even want to think about what the worst case would be
you'll have to flee as a refugee. i'll take you in don't worry.
Hexbear’s favorite podcaster, Robert Evans, has a pretty good novel about this called After The Revolution. it’s free to read online
Methamphetamarines, Gravy Seals and Mid-life ISIS are the ones you need to watch out for
"You could totally see this thing coming that no one saw coming, all the signs were there 30 years later"
The US losing its position as the only global superpower doesn't mean it's going to stop existing. It will probably still reign over North American and do more of what it did in the 1800's. Might even become a global power again after a decade or two, only by then it may have to share that position with more than one country.
Realistically we can all see the collapse of the American empire happening in real time. Bloated corrupt beuracracy, failing infrastructure, the ruling gerontocracy completely out of touch with the working class. The USA is slowly but surely collapsing; look at their failure to maintain a military prescence in Afghanistan. The only question is whether they will become a less important imperial state, or break into war, dictatorship or revolution
if the second part is true why was the CIA and US so surprised by it happening?
Okay, which one of you stole my joke and put it on 4chan?
'cause that's a good bit, and you deserve credit.
