Posted the wrong link and now I've lost it, sorry folks, not like you can actual go dunk anyway :shrug

  • Dirtbag [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Ivermectin chuds aren’t people with low intelligence. They're people so committed to their political ideology they’re willing to destroy their liver and/or die of covid.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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      3 years ago

      Yep. Gotta remember that a lot of those folks are actually smart cookies or specialists in their fields, but ideologically misguided to a cultish degree.

      • Haste_Hall [he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        Speaking of such, have we heard from Ben Carson lately?

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          3 years ago

          I thought he was dead, but is apparently alive saying it's a hot housing market rn

          • Haste_Hall [he/him]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            That was Herman Cain who was killed by COVID-19 that he most likely caught at a Trump rally.

            hot housing market

            Lmao yeah, great insight there, doc

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Idk is it really out of principle for their lolbertarian ideology? They might genuinely believe the vaccine is dangerous and that Ivermectin will provide legitimate relief for their symptoms.

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        If it didn't have anything to do with their ideology, we'd see a more even spread of ivermectin case usage. Though, tbh, I haven't seen any numbers

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    sticking my balls into a panini press and screaming 'EUGENICIST' at everyone who tries to help

  • s0ciety [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I like Elle, and they generally have good takes, but this sucks.

    If someone willingly eats horse paste and becomes infertile, that's hilarious.

    It's eugenics if it's forced on people, like prisoners. That's bad and we should absolutely fight that shit

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Doing dumb things and then not being able to pass down genes as a consequence is normal evolution at work here.

      • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Didn't know this site had people that actually believed in social darwinism

        • Dewot523 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's not social darwinism, it's just literally darwinism.

            • Dewot523 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Social darwinism is both the belief that society has an imperative to root out and cast out "losers" and let them die, and the attempt to implement those beliefs.

              Eugenics is that belief applied on the literal genetic level.

              This is neither of those. Society did not at any point impel or encourage these people to take horse dewormer and destroy their balls. They did it out of free choice entirely of their own accord. You're flat out wrong.

              • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                Social darwinism is both the belief that society has an imperative to root out and cast out “losers” and let them die, and the attempt to implement those beliefs.

                This idea that social darwinism only refers to applied ideas is extremely stupid. You can hold social darwinist ideas without being Hitler or some shit.

                The idea that dumb people removing themselves from the gene pool being an example of darwinism is pseudoscience. Again, I'm begging you to crack open a book or at least read up social darwinism and darwinism on Wikipedia. It's fucking insane to see this type of garbage on a leftist forum.

              • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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                3 years ago

                This is neither of those. Society did not at any point impel or encourage these people to take horse dewormer and destroy their balls. They did it out of free choice entirely of their own accord. You’re flat out wrong.

                What is your definition of society? Because it seems you are equating society with government. These chuds are all being influenced by social media, peer pressure from their social groups(online and IRL) and probably family members. To me that easily qualifies as social encouragement. To say they are doing it out of "free will" is just a lib take. People will do crazy shit things in order to remain part of a group and the consequences means there is very little actual choice here unless you think people willingly choose to suffer on purpose.

          • Dirtbag [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            They have the resources. This isn't people with low intelligence. It's people so committed to their political ideology they're willing to destroy their liver.

            • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              ideology poisoning should get a label: might be harmful to your liver or drastically increase your chance of lead poisoning when the revolution comes :malcolm-checks:

              • Dirtbag [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                Doomer bloomer take:

                Yeah. If anything we're lucking out that their ideology is going in such a self-destructive direction. Things would have been a lot easier for the anti-fascist resistance if a bunch of Nazis had overdosed on neurotoxins before shit got real.

                More of them going now = less innocent lives lost later. I know that's harsh, but if they were willing to do this shit over being asked to wear a mask and get a vaccine... imagine what they'd do if they were asked to redistribute wealth and give up systemic white privilege.

                • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  although to be fair ideology poisoning is not exclusive to nazis, in the US of K the relentless double whammy of personal responsibility (you are responsible for your own health and yours alone) and false consciousness (can't trust the media or state but can random snake oil salesman) makes even non :fash-mad: into horse med enjoyers

              • Dirtbag [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                It's some cringe irony poisoning from the "darwin award" meme that boomers / gen x loved. Not surprised its showed up in response to chuds picking up death cult behavior. Also not surprised people are pushing back on it. :shrug-outta-hecks:

                I guess I get it if its shorthand for "they won't be able to raise kids they can indoctrinate?" but that also totally forgets adoption is a thing... I don't know. There are better ways to dunk on fash chugging dewormer to own us.

                • Haste_Hall [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  3 years ago

                  “darwin award” meme that boomers / gen x loved.

                  Go ahead and rope millennials in there too.

          • Mrtryfe [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            At least there's some recognition on your end that there's a social order at play here, driving these choices. Some of the other responses in this thread are just outright reactionary

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I'm not reading any of whatever dumbass struggle session this caused. Stop being nerds.

    • Haste_Hall [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Yeah they seems like they have their heart in the right place, for sure.

      • s0ciety [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah, they're trying to equate this actually funny thing to like when libs say "people in Southern states deserve what their oppressive governments do to them and they should leave if they don't like it"

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      It is hilarious. I do feel sorry for them as human beings, in the sense that capitalism's decay has given them terminal brainworms, but it's still very, very funny.

  • Clicheguevara [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The desperation of these woker than thou hot-takes is revolting. They all basically amount to posting "fight me, bro".

      • Clicheguevara [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I'm fine with a moral stance. And I don't think there's not any point here. It just covered up by a nauseating helping of self-righteous posturing.

        Posting is not and never can be a moral act. And what's worse, it's often a substitute for actually doing something. So in that way, it's worse than doing nothing, if it convinces you that you already have.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Who sees "Wow, all these people we told not to take ivermectin took it and are getting fucked up by it" and goes "THIS IS JUST LIKE WHEN MY DAD USED TO SLAM MY HEAD INTO THE WALL BECAUSE I ASKED FOR A GLASS OF WATER"

  • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Is there a general name for this sort of argument?

    Where you find oppression in literally everything including the people who are actually oppressive?

    "equality poisoning" maybe?

    • BUSSYBUS [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's called mediation and its what libs worship, centering everything around this idea of civility so that every scenario has both sides needing to "compromise" and come together, ignoring of course what matters which is power and one side will benefit from this "compromise" a lot more than the other, who might even suffer as a result, so "compromise" just means "status quo"

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The paradox of tolerance, maybe? Tolerating shitty people who suffer as a direct result of their own action and defending them from criticism.

  • OldSoulHippie [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's so dumb when the right tries to weaponize "wokeness" to own a straw man character they invented.

  • RedArmor [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    No one is forcing them to take horse dewormer. They are doing it willingly so it is funny and if they become infertile because of it then idk what to say besides lol

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    In this context the take is fucking dumb. But I do see liberals constantly saying shit about how rednecks shouldn't breed and such, which is probably what they're talking about on a larger scale.

    This horse paste situation seems to be melting people's brains a bit and producing some absolutely bonkers takes.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    When I watched my first case of a parent killing their kid with woo, it really destroyed any notion I still had of parenting being some sacred right or ultimate authority. The best thing that could ever happen to a kid in that position is their parents being infertile due to gettin' horse drunk.

  • flowernet [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    No one:

    Someone: have you considered that I'm a victim of Abuse?

    btw, I'm maybe ignorant, do abusive parents commonly call their kids infertile?

    • OutrageousHairdo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I could see that being something a transphobe might end up saying in certain circumstances, or just being said to someone who just isn't having great luck

    • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      I think what she's saying is that it's hurtful to people who had shitty parents to say that shitty people shouldn't have kids

      IDK I had to read this garbage like three times to try and parse it