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Yes, they do need to make a movie featuring a “brave Republic of China soldier fighting the Revolutionary Army” aka that RoC soldier bravely executing labor organizers, peasant leaders and any other suspected commie in Shanghai at 1927.

At this point, if the USSR were still around, I’d expect libs to want to idolize the White Army to own the commies. Maybe talk about how “Supreme Commander” Alexander Kolchak wanted to institute democracy and freedom and stuff before Lenin ruined everything. If only they had committed another pogrom or five, then they could have succeeded!

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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    And it can highlight mao just starving the shit out of people and murdering them

    The average life expectancy of the Chinese people was 27-31 years of age when Mao began his efforts. The life expectancy of the average Chinese person increased DURING the revolution and civil war because revolutionary and civil war conditions were better than the standard the KMT provided before things kicked off. Shit was really that bad.

  • PlantsRstillCool [des/pair]
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    I've been to one the the KMT's concentration camps. Maybe they can have the brave Republican of China fighter gather up and beheading civilians suspected of being communist sympathizers too.

  • please_dont [he/him]
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    The funny thing is that if Holywood made a movie based on western liberal historiographies of the Chinese Civil War these people would scream how its glorifying the CPC, cause the communists were simply that cool and dope.

    Like how can you even depict The Long March and try to make the communist be lame and bad. The whole thing is so dope for Mao and the party that it reads like an anime story arc with the CPC as the heroes

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah. Mao sounds pretty much like an anime underdog antihero who turns his shattered guerrilla army into the PRC. Even Chuds admire his war theories and strategies.

      • please_dont [he/him]
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        Yeah literally all big western armies and generals read Mao's stuff on Guirrella Warfare and on People's War in a know your enemy type of way cause its literally the most effective and adaptable way to not only fight your own state and status quo but also any invader or occupier. And ofcourse they fucking trained reactionary guirella fighters like the Mujahideen based on theses principles ironicaly. Even straight up giving them Mao to read in some cases

        I was trying to find some declassified US Army documents from after Vietnam going point by point on the specific tactics of fighting a people's war on your own soil against (even overwhelmingly more equiped) invading forces ,quoting the relevant mao passages, and concluding on "You cant really win against it, even if you burn the entire country to the ground" . But its been a long time since i saw them , maybe it was a link in the old sub, and i cant find em . But yeah its so rock solid that even Groups like the Shinning Path in Peru whose leadership was crap , and shitted the bed at every turn still held almost half the country at one point

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      Like how can you even depict The Long March and try to make the communist be lame and bad.

      Spin it as a zombie movie, with the KMT made out to be Anglocized Tacti-Cool Supersoldiers fighting a rear guard action against the Yellow Horde.

      You even have a sequel where Chiang Kai-Shek has to flee to a remote island and purge it of infection, before turning his eyes desperately towards the westward shore with longing. Then a climactic third arc in which the Rebel Army triumphantly returns to the mainland in a reverse-reenactment of the Long March that stretches from Hong Kong to Beijing.

      Honestly, this Libshit Reactionary Fantasy practically writes itself.

  • Dinkdink [none/use name]
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    The KMT, like all White movements, were their own worst enemy. It's hard to say the commies are bad when you're kidnapping every male of military age and forcing them into the army. When your own commanders rip the commoners off on rice and fuel, and they break into your house in a drunken stupor and rape your daughter. It's no secret why the KMT lost.

    There were also communists and communist sympathizers in the KMT. They would divert badly needed supplies to the wrong destination, sabotage vehicles, deliberately surrender garrisons, etc. Mao understood this and relentlessly purged internal enemies for the rest of his life.

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    Liberals be like: “We need [FASCIST PROPAGANDA] to show just how bad [NATION OPPOSED TO US FOREIGN POLICY/GLOBAL CAPITAL] is!”

    These are the same people who claim China is “Sinicizing” minority areas where China is actually promoting multilingualism, education, promoting the unique culture of the area, and dismantling the economic structure of imperialist capital which systematically destroys all of the above. They want to “““free””” Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang et al. by… handing control of China to the regime which forcibly incorporated and oppressed these same areas and even claims more territory than the PRC does. Let them say whatever they will about the PRC being “imperialist” (hint: it isn’t) but these dumbfucks want to hand control of China over to literally the only entity on planet that has MORE territorial disputes than the PRC: the ROC.

  • dengdidnothingwrong [none/use name]
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    China already has a ton of Chinese Civil War movies and TV shows LMAO. Imagine movies about Communist spies and where the Communists win :hammer-sickle:

    Like for example, here's a KMT-CPC spy drama based in 1930s Shanghai: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMp0luBvcCw

    By the first scene is literally the KMT's secret service torturing a suspected Communist, so Redditors' fantasies of people getting murdered are being realised but not in the way they want :xi-lib-tears:

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    3 years ago

    and at the end he gets his ass whooped by the Workers' and Peasants' Red Army lol

    dumbass redditor didn't even get the timeline right of course the big famine all the libs whine about happened during the Great Leap Forward, not during the civil war. Though there was a famine in KMT territory during the civil war at once point, but that's not relevant because you can't blame it on communism

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Imagine being so naive to think Hollywood would make a propaganda movie set in China and make an actual Chinese person the protagonist instead of some white dude.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        They would probably do something like: "Normal, (ie. white bourgeois) family is living in China and everything is nice. The weather is sunny, their house beautiful and their garden lush and green. The Chinese servants are happy, noble and love their masters. Then the evil unwashed communists comes along. They speak very bad English and they look a bit more Chinese than the KMT Chinese who are basically good guys despite having their flaws (they are ethnic after all). The weather gets worse at this point. The communists are very rude and evil and tortures and/or kills some white people. At some point one of them shoots a puppy for no good reason. Then the badass white guy does Rambo shit on them, eventually bringing his family to safety in the capitalist civilised world."

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          Actually, come to think of it... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Emperor

          They kinda did make a big budget movie in this period

  • please_dont [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Will the prequel of the KMT bravely flooding the entire Central China through the Yellow River and killing 800k of their people be a movie or suplementary material ?

    • richietozier4 [he/him]
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      Or the time they set fire to a city, destroying the cultural accumulations stretching back to the Spring and Autumn period

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      I doubt one lib in three even knows it exists. Tsar Nicholas was brutally murdered by the scoundrel Vladimir Lenin and then everyone was Communist and they were nice to the Nazis and did a genocide against Kulaks and then the Nazis beat them and then America came and fixed it and the Communists didn't say thank you, so we had a Cold War for 60 years and then neoliberalism won and that was History The End.

      • CopsDyingIsGood [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Well yeah, only one lib in three can remember any historical event that happened more than 6 months ago. But those that do remember/know literally anything about the Russian revolution surely fetishize the Whites.