Lmao, chuds deciding to babytalk nazi shit while dressing up as clowns.
Reminds me of the 4channer who showed up to a White Supremacist rally with a bunch of memes and got kicked out.
I can only hope the older ones fall into crushing hopelessness as they realize what they saw that day was the future of their movement
I can only hope the older ones fall into crushing hopelessness as they realize what they saw that day was the future of their movement
I don't remember where I saw or read this, but IIRC the old school white nationalists who were blowing shit up and selling meth and getting into prison fights actually did see these people and were like "holy shit these guys are fucking nerds"
my favorite part about this situation is out of context the militia types seem like they're demonstrating for serious reasons except in truth all of them are there for a non-existent, completely fabricated threat of antifa tearing down a statue of Sam Houston which didn't happen nor was ever planned
one of the most humiliating things that’s ever happened in the history of humanity, i feel
You mean its the one least humiliating things that’s ever happened in the history of humanity from here on out
After that got shut down they switched to pretending to be hvac technicians.
It really shows how little depth there is to any discussion they're capable of when you can scrub off 90% of the specifics of their speech, replace it with jargon about air-conditioning units, and have it still be immediately recognizable.
The goal wasn't to mask their speech (well, not long after they first tried it, at least). It was to make something innocuous into something malicious, have Lefties/Libs point it out, and then proceed to giggle like school children and circlejerk each other over how they got the Left into thinking a hand symbol/cartoon frog/AC unit was racist. It was always terminally-online, selfcongratulatory bullshit.
Really astonishing how effective the Ok sign campaign was. They managed to successfully turn the Ok sign into a Nazi hand signal, and simultaneously make a bunch of politically ignorant Reddit morons think that anyone who called it out was just "getting trolled."
Yeah, this is a correct analysis. I don't know how controversial this is, but I've never once felt afraid or worried about this particular branch of internet fascism, as in the whole 4chan meme lord shit. It's possible the most sedentary, pointless group of reactionaries I've ever witnessed. Even the stuff that escaped their stupid image boards (Qanon, the unite the right rally) ends up backfiring on them because they end up looking like dipshit or killing someone, resulting in no political traction that capital wasn't going to do anyway.
Maybe I'm missing something or I'm being too nonchalant
The fact that the New Zealand mosque shooter was a 4chan guy, and streamed his shooting to great acclaim in /pol/ should be enough to convince you that you're being too nonchalant.
In case it isn't, just know that talk of "shit posting" and chan originated meme shit is all over almost any IRL far right demonstration I've encountered. This shit is not confined to the internet.
The nazi who murdered Heather Heyer was also a 4chan idiot, plus the Qanon dipshit who fired a rifle into comet pingpong. There's these shooters and the idiot demonstrators, but what level is the 4chan stuff doing it and what level is it general societal alienation? Is the 4chan meme stuff the cause or is it just the particular flavor that fascism is taking this time around? This might be me getting too deep in the weeds, but if the whole meme culture didn't exist, wouldn't they have latched onto something else? I don't know if I'm fully convinced the memes are an independent variable, or even that strong of an influence, they're one of many conduits of their energy. Like the Nazis had Wagner and swastikas and stupid obsessions with occultism. They had their own language and symbols. Take that stuff away and they'd find something else until the root cause is crushed.
The thing is, the aesthetics of fascism are a huge part of their power. The red flags, the torchlight marches, the greek statues.
Fascism draws people to it with its symbols.
But also, apart from that, I've heard too many stories of people’s grandparents getting “red pilled” on 4chan, and going from being mainstream republicans to full on fascists (yes, there is a difference) to think that this shit is “just online” or immaterial.
i wouldn't say the stuff is insignificant, but rather, it's all a kind of shallow way of obfuscating their advocacy of ethnic genocide. it's probably still important to recognize their symbols for what they are, but there's some kind of inverse relationship going on where the more they're obsessed with the memes the less I take them seriously
I'm trying to formulate a way we could obfuscate communist stuff in some kind of silly way but I'm drawing a blank. That might be because communist theory is very blunt and direct about how the world operates, whereas fascist theory already requires a mountain of obfuscation and subscription to pseudoscience. So turning fascism into frog memes or air conditioners is just shifting around the symbols of an already gibberish worldview.
wait were all those asbestos memes from a while back some kind of dog whistle?
4channazis are kinda fucked in the head. Just look at some of the deranged shit Himmler was into.Tons of weird occult shit, nazi knight larping, pagan Nazi Christmas candlesticks, that he himself was the reincarnation of king Henry the Fowler.
What's that thing Zizek said about the mask being more authentic than the true self?
Internet fascists speaking in frog meme babytalk seems more like who they truly are than when they try to do anything serious.
They are still occasionally using the "fren" thing as a dog whistle on twitter.
Yeah I've been running some blockchains on a bunch of groyper accounts lately and such and there are a lot of them still using "fren" https://i.imgur.com/IhqQ74Q.png https://i.imgur.com/HSHKQUm.png
I believe that blockchain should become a new weasel word like "thingie," "whatsit," "doodad," or "thingamajig"
a lot of it is just references to /pol/ memes that look like nonsense if you've never been on there.
I just liked the cute funni frog :(
This is what I most miss about browsing 4chan. Pepe/Apu/etc are all great and hilarious but the affliation with Nazi shit is annoying
idk, in all my encounters with 4chan and chan culture for well over a decade now I've always found it to be an extremely toxic and draining cesspool full of deeply troubled and socially maladjusted people and the culture only amplifies their worst tendencies
And it's only gotten worse, at least back in the first Obama admin it wasn't explicitly fascist
an extremely toxic and draining cesspool full of deeply troubled and socially maladjusted people and the culture only amplifies their worst tendencies
well, yes, but it was fun
I just want to go back to prank calling Tom Green and Hal Turner
I realized a long time ago just how terrible that chan culture is but I miss the brief period of fun time ignorance I had
Yeah looking back I can see how unhealthy it was....I still owe some things to that place though, and it wasn't all bad before 2016. After Trump won it basically went to turboshit
MFW nazis get clown-pilled when they realize Trump wasn’t a real fascist :tromp:
Trying to explain that shit to people who weren't terminally online was.. painful
Yeah I made a commie fren to troll them once and they cried a lot
When my mom does babytalk with our dog she talks about his 'frens' and I don't have the heart to tell her about the immediate association I have with that term. Thankfully it's such an insular reference that I don't think it'll ever be a problem, but I can't not remember it.
"Yeah sorry but you actually sound like an alt-right manchild when you tell me about who you saw at the park"
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