Fuck Atwood

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I know how this script usually goes: "I was all for the trans, but then they were rude to me, so I've completely reversed my stance and really they should all be put into camps"

    Watch this space in the coming weeks

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      The Economist came out in support of Chappelle saying that his opinions were popular therefore they were right.

      Maddening how transphobic the world is becoming because assholes always need someone to punch down on.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        lol Twitter promoted an Economist article onto my feed that was complaining about the terminology "Bodies with vaginas" and "pregnant people".

        Economist deserves to get nuked (in hit game Sid Meyers Civilization 6).

        • cawsby [he/him]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          Arguing from popularity: Lynching black people used to be popular.

          Economist: This is good because a white stand-up comic said it was funny during the same era.

          Their argument supporting Chappelle's cultural popularity equating to being morally righteous is something a kid in 6th grade debate could tear apart.

  • Waldoz53 [he/him, any]
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    3 years ago

    reminder that people said this about MLK. 75% of americans didn't like him months before his assassination. it wasn't until MLK died that white people pretended that they've always loved him

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Michael Moore said on Chapo that when he was a kid he was walking out of his (all white) church and when they announced MLK Jr had been shot, the whole congregation up and cheered.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Fuck Atwood

    Now that I've watched both Handmaid's Tale and Alias Grace, I'm noticing a theme in her work (assuming the shows are true to the book). The heroines in her stories all seem to explicitly reject class (not ambivalent about class, but outright denying class distinctions) in favor of solidarity with other women. Like, I might be a poor oppressed woman and you are a rich and privileged woman, but we're both women so really we should ally with each other to fight the patriarchy.

    So not surprised she has some TERFy tendencies.

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      If you read the Handmaid's Tale it is even worse when it comes to race.

      All the horrible shit shown in the show only happens to white people in the books. Black people are in concentration camps in the book, but they are only mentioned for two sentences as the "Children of Ham". Atwood loves writing about white women, but she has many tricks to make entire races of other women dissapear in her stories.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Beyond parody to just off handedly put minorities in a concentration camp so you dont have to worry about making them real characters.

        • cawsby [he/him]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          The Handmaid's Tale would be like writing a 311 page history of WWII from the perspective of a captured white woman in the French resistance while mentioning the Jews, Romanians, Slavs, Russians, Homosexuals, and disabled for not even a page.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    Margaret Atwood would flip shit if she saw someone say

    Women's rights? Yes. Toxic, in-your-face activism? No

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      For a long while I thought much of second wave feminism could be saved, but then I realized it was always based on toxicity and an unearned sense of white female supremacy.

      Abbot epitomizes how problematic it is when write what you know becomes a shield for a writer to exclude entire categories of people pertinent by consequence of the story or history of the era from their writing.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    3 years ago

    I just want her to fuck off now, I dont care for anyone to convince her I would just be happy with her fucking having a stroke or something and going away forever.

    Im so tired of fucking goddamn white middle class feminists doing this shit and inviting massive transphobic hate on anyone trying to argue with it, while they just sit and brick wall any arguments or just yell "IM NOT A TERF IM NOT A TERF" at the top of their metaphorical twitter lungs. The fucking audacity of claiming you "say yes to trans rights" and then retweet an article that is fundamentally arguing for restricting trans rights based on access to transition care and misgenders trans women who lack this access as "non-transitioned males", that is just soft TERFism.

    Fuck whoever wrote the shitty article too, using the tired old "Men are abusing self ID to get at women, while back in my day you had to get the whole surgery to even be considered trans" bullshit. I dont care if the author is trans when she decides to literally misgender trans women just for not having had access to transition care, she can fuck off and die too for all I care, but she might not even exist given apparently this is her only online presence anyone can seem to find.

  • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's fascinating to tell trans people to be quiet when that's something Atwood actively writes against when it happens to women.

    • cawsby [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      See the fresh Judith Butler polemic in the Guardian if you want to wash away the taste of the Economist article.

      https://hexbear.net/post/148470

      Judith ain't holding back today against TERFs.

  • Quimby [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    Ok, I guess my trans comrades will just wait quietly to be granted rights by a magic genie. :headass:

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    https://twitter.com/curtain_flower/status/1451952936058298381

    :marx-ok: