• Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    3 years ago

    It was extremely revealing when I started diving deeper into how the Red Army systematically shredded their asses when they finally fought them to a stalemate defense and seized the initiative.

    Like it really says a lot about your military when they do outstanding against non-peer under-developed armies and peer armies that you're at peace with then suddenly launch an ambush attack after saying you're not going to attack them. Like bro you only look like you're great because you're great at being an asshole.

    • JuryNullification [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Like it really says a lot about your military when they do outstanding against non-peer under-developed armies

      :amerikkka:

    • AFineWayToDie [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      An entire army of gamers who've only played on godmode and ragequit when they aren't allowed to use cheats.

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        1 year ago

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      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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        3 years ago

        An entire army of gamers soyfacing while playing on baby's first fps easy mode against the AI then rage facing when they enter multi-player and get merced by a tomahawk throw at the start of the match

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 years ago

      The entire German strategy in WW1 and WW2 was "shock and awe". They thought they would just roll over France/Poland like Britain rolled over some African nation.

        • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          They did, sure, but Germany didn't exactly have a solid plan for when that didn't work because you weren't fighting a nation a fraction of your size. They stomped Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark and Norway because they were only a fraction of the power of Germany. Taking over France was a a total fluke that only somehow worked because the French really didn't seem to understand that the Germans were obviously going to take the only war plan with a slim chance of winning. But against any tougher of a foe they didn't have any real chance. They probably could have taken the UK if not for the small detail of "50 miles of water guarded by the most powerful navy on earth vs. your puny joke of a navy", and after they ran out of easy pickings, their entire war plan just ground to a halt because they had less manpower and industrial capabilities than their enemies

    • Capaedia [he/him,any]
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      3 years ago

      TIK had some really good videos on this

      Very sad that he turned out to be a libertarian weirdo but I suppose he just takes military history very seriously

    • steve5487 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      There was also the fact that Russia had room to tactically retreat while France for example didn't

  • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Only tangentially related, but why do so many places use the German words for Nazi military stuff? Like other non English countries have their militaries refered to in English by English speakers

    • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I assume the widespread WWII propaganda efforts made these things more commonly understood with the nazis. The 'Luftwaffen' is catchier than 'the german airforce,' especially if everyone is paying such close attention. Just a guess!

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        "Luftwaffen" is nazi, "the german airforce" is german.

        It was a conscious effort to disassociate the actions of the nazis from the german national identity.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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          3 years ago

          It was a conscious effort to disassociate the actions of the nazis from the german national identity

          While having the nazis form the new German national identity after ww2.

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          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The GDR was the only good part of Germany. Fantastic how a defensive wall and robust denazification program had them demonized in the west.

    • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It's a cultivated mystique around Nazi Germany and trying to make them feel cooler and different. Series scholars say stuff like German Army and specifically avoid saying the German names because it lends this coolness factor that if you're not a fascist you'll want to avoid.

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    3 years ago

    They invaded the god damn ussr with ZERO RECON OR SCOUTING

    Their intelligence org had every agent in Britain turn themselves in willingly to the Brits.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      they did a bunch of scouting of the forward positions if the Red Army, its how they got all the airfields at the beginning of Barbarossa.

      they had no fukin clue about the reserves and the country past the initial frontlines tho

      • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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        3 years ago

        Exactly forward positions. Never of deep recon or estimates on deep targets . They just assumed they knew everything.

          • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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            3 years ago

            You joke but this was their actual assumption. Like when Barb stalled by their own estimates they had captured the entire Red Army 3 times over.

    • camarade [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Poor inter-service communication and cooperation between the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe resulted in the loss of two German warships through friendly fire bombing and German or British mines.

      lol

      • D61 [any]
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        3 years ago

        I can imagine those bomber crews high fiveing each other popping open a bottle of hooch and passing it around before somebody gets them on the radio to ask, "what the fuck they thought they were doing."

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          3 years ago

          Given that the anti-shipping air mission and anti-fishing ship mission didn't know about each other, they probably only worked out that it was friendly fire days later.

          I like to imagine the bomber crew walking by the docks like "Damn, how'd you guys capture so many British ships?"

  • steve5487 [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    also they lost the war. If they were the best at winning wars they would have won.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Hey, uh, don't mean to be a bother sweatie, but Wikipedia says that this is a part of the Phoney War, which means that it is fake news. No I will not click any other links on the article. Are you a commie or something?