What will those dastardly orientals come up with next?
I dated a girl that did a Krav Maga taster lesson thing and she said in the first 20 minutes they learned how to disarm a knife attacker and also how to disarm a pistol user and then render the pistol useless. This wasn't some McDojo either, it was in London and sponsored by the IDF with the instructors being former IDF people. Absolutely bizarre.
I cannot, for the life of me, ever convince anyone that KM is bullshit. If you can't spar and you can't compete, you will freeze up and spaz out if you ever had to use it in a real situation. If it really came time to gouge someone's eye 1) eyes are really small if it's already tricky to punch someone's head 2) you'll really upset someone if you miss 3) you'd probably hesitate once you made contact because YOU DONT PRACTICE IT. Same with the groin. Every minute of KM practice is better spent on BJJ or Muay Thai, but also consider other alternatives if you need to defend yourself. Opportunities to use martial arts are so incredibly rare compared to situations that you can walk, run, diffuse, be with a group, give up your wallet, etc.
To my understanding no. I know nobody is going to spar groin kicks and eye gouges. They might do kickboxing and grappling depending on the gym, maybe even those mock knives and guns. Personally, I don't put much stock into martial arts against weapons and kickboxing is better done at a kickboxing gym - there'd be less woowoo and "yeah, that wouldn't have worked cause I would have ripped your balls off"
Even a western discipline like boxing alone will not serve you in MMA. Master of MMA is better at MMA than a master of related but more specialized sport is not especially surprising.
I'm sorry did you just say fighting (the thing that we use to enact violence on others) doesn't require that much violence to work?
The purpose of Martial Arts is to learn how to fight someone. That's why Martial is in the name, and why Boxing, wrestling, and MMA are also Martial Arts. Yes you train the mind and body, but you are training them for the exact purpose of learning to exact force upon another, presumably resisting, human being.
These Masters were likely Talou practitioners who got too full of themselves. A Sanda practitioner would have faired better.
Martial arts is not a unified body of arts with only one philosophy. It's also totally shaped by the environment and culture it was created in. Kung Fu does not have the same purpose, philosophy or lifestyle as Catch wrestling, kajukenbo, etc. So to say that martial arts is used for one thing only isn't true. It's depends on what you're studying.
I always thought martial arts was more about coordination and bodily awareness. Not really for beating the shit out of anyone. That's still best done with a big ass stick and a power stance.
No, Martial Arts is about learning how to beat someone else in a fight. Coordination and bodily awareness are things that you develop through that process.
I'm surprised no one's talking about how these masters were likely talou guys trying to pass themselves off as competent fighters.
I’m surprised no one’s talking about how these masters were likely talou guys trying to pass themselves off as competent fighters.
Isn't that how most fantastical stories of martial arts masters started? Men telling fish tales to scare away challengers but end up believing their own hype?
Definitely possible. All I know is that I saw the fights, which these guys agreed to, and they looked like they didn't know what they were doing
What does this post even mean? MMA's rise is because of fascist-friendly centrism? What?
I can't really explain his phrasing, but I know UFC 1 was the ultimate advertisement for BJJ and the Gracie family is pretty awful, super pro-cop, and Renzo likes Bolsanaro. MMA isn't exactly where you find a bunch of comrades
The gracie family are famous practitioners of BJJ and BJJ is the best on the ground martial art and since most fights go to the ground the gracies become renown from that. Not everything is a right wing conspiracy.
Also, in general you won't find "comrades" in most places. Singling out MMA just sounds like typical anti-sports a.k.a. anti-working class hobbies rhetoric.
That's fair, I didn't intend to single out MMA. I practice it myself and wish there were more lefties around. I suppose I could have said the same thing about a lot of sports and activities with that framing. I get along with "a wide variety" of political viewpoints about BLM, the coronavirus, etc. there and it can be frustrating
This just sounds like typical smug "sports are for the dumb working class" rhetoric that we are all too familiar with.
As for your many edits, make up your mind. Is this about Joe Rogan or not? WhatDoYouMeanPodcast said nothing about Joe Rogan and yet your post is now all about Joe Rogan?
Stop calling me defensive, you're literally doing what I just said. You've edited your post three times, replied to me three times and still haven't made a coherent point so I'm not missing any point.
Except you haven't clarified anything. You did the typical middle class lib "sports are dumb haha" and then when I called you out on it you've made this ludicrous switch to joe rogan nonsense. You then said the other post said their post was better when it had nothing to do with Joe Rogan and that user has now recanted.
you’re not going to immediately dismiss the source before seeing the video excerpts built into it
hey dude why don't you fuck off with this shit and stop messaging me. everyone knows joe rogan is bad, you made a bad point and instead of reconsidering you doubled down and kept being smug.
