In this interview, Candace Owens expresses her disgust at kids wearing masks in schools: "it looks like China."Trump surprises her by responding: "Well, China's education system is a hell of a lot better than ours." https://t.co/SgeWgkFDAe— gelatina coreana de bellota (@dotorii_muk) December 23, 2021
It's honestly creepy how aware the actual bourgeoisie are about class warfare and aspects of materialism compared to the dipshit propagandists they put out there in the media. We're finally hearing Trump speak without a Republican speechwriter (badly) keeping him on rails, and usually only their point guy Tucker Carlson is allowed to talk in terms of class.
Like "comrade Trump" is good slop as a meme and everything , but it's also skeeves me the fuck out when they speak "my language" so much more clearly than people I run into in daily life, or even in media, I usually have to get down into my niche within my niche on this site to get that lol.
I've said this before, but smart corporate leadership and politicians are some of the staunchest Marxists in the USA, they're just on the "other side".
Technically you could say Trump is more like "aristocracy" than "bourgeoisie" since he's a property baron, but that distinction hasn't meant anything in 100 years.
Well no because owning land and collecting rent is not strictly the same as owning "means of production", but that distinction has become less meaningful.
Once a dwelling is wielded in a profit generating manner, it becomes a means of production because it is a way of using capital to produce profit/more capital for the owner
bourgeoisie = noun for people who build wealth through means of ownership, especially the thousand or so billionaires who have the highest concentration of wealth
bourgeois = adjective describing the above, whether literally or culturally (like "boujee"): "making money from the factory that you've been to is bourgeois." "dressing fancy and going to an opera is bourgeois"
Like our comrade mentioned, we also using it semi-ironically or unironically toward the privileges of the American "middle class", some of which can accurately be described as "bourgeois"
In leftist spaces it's pretty much never used that way and when radicalizing libs it's one of the FIRST distinctions I bring up cause it can make richer people feel like part of the thing. Bring em in and then make them feel guilty about being rich, then they give money to leftist shit instead of just taking their chips off the left table. We don't need libs, but we do need their money.
He very clearly is bourgeois and has been for his entire life, what on earth definition of bourgeois are you using that doesn't include billionaire real estate tycoon Donald Trump?
Trump talks and acts like a kid from Queens. That's part of why the elite hate him so much. He may have gone to Wharton and be a billionaire who lived on Central Park but he still acts like the guy in a working class bar who will slap the shit out of someone who gives him lip or disrespects him.
Buddy, we are materialists here. Sam Walton in a baseball cap is not a salt of the Earth farm boy, and Trump being a pro-wrestling fan does not make him "Just a kid from NY".
Trump has a more grounded take on Chinese affairs than basically any other person in establishment politics lmfao
It's honestly creepy how aware the actual bourgeoisie are about class warfare and aspects of materialism compared to the dipshit propagandists they put out there in the media. We're finally hearing Trump speak without a Republican speechwriter (badly) keeping him on rails, and usually only their point guy Tucker Carlson is allowed to talk in terms of class.
Like "comrade Trump" is good slop as a meme and everything , but it's also skeeves me the fuck out when they speak "my language" so much more clearly than people I run into in daily life, or even in media, I usually have to get down into my niche within my niche on this site to get that lol.
I've said this before, but smart corporate leadership and politicians are some of the staunchest Marxists in the USA, they're just on the "other side".
Trump isn't the bourgeoisie lol
Wtf he’s a billionaire head of an international conglomerate of businesses he absolutely is bourgeoisie
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Technically you could say Trump is more like "aristocracy" than "bourgeoisie" since he's a property baron, but that distinction hasn't meant anything in 100 years.
No technically he would very much be bourgeoisie lol
Well no because owning land and collecting rent is not strictly the same as owning "means of production", but that distinction has become less meaningful.
Once a dwelling is wielded in a profit generating manner, it becomes a means of production because it is a way of using capital to produce profit/more capital for the owner
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Yes he is? He's definitely not a proletarian lmao
Elon Musk is bourgeois
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https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/wiki/class might help you understand the distinctions of class more clearly.
That's true. Trump is also.
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I thought bourgeois just meant middle class
ok I guess I was wrong
Others have provided you with good answers but I cannot recommend enough the Citations Needed episode about exactly this
bourgeoisie = noun for people who build wealth through means of ownership, especially the thousand or so billionaires who have the highest concentration of wealth
bourgeois = adjective describing the above, whether literally or culturally (like "boujee"): "making money from the factory that you've been to is bourgeois." "dressing fancy and going to an opera is bourgeois"
Like our comrade mentioned, we also using it semi-ironically or unironically toward the privileges of the American "middle class", some of which can accurately be described as "bourgeois"
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In leftist spaces it's pretty much never used that way and when radicalizing libs it's one of the FIRST distinctions I bring up cause it can make richer people feel like part of the thing. Bring em in and then make them feel guilty about being rich, then they give money to leftist shit instead of just taking their chips off the left table. We don't need libs, but we do need their money.
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I think that definition was coined when upper class meant "literal aristocrats and royalty."
What? No, that's not how class distinction works for Marxists. Middle class is borderline meaningless.
He very clearly is bourgeois and has been for his entire life, what on earth definition of bourgeois are you using that doesn't include billionaire real estate tycoon Donald Trump?
Trump talks and acts like a kid from Queens. That's part of why the elite hate him so much. He may have gone to Wharton and be a billionaire who lived on Central Park but he still acts like the guy in a working class bar who will slap the shit out of someone who gives him lip or disrespects him.
Buddy, we are materialists here. Sam Walton in a baseball cap is not a salt of the Earth farm boy, and Trump being a pro-wrestling fan does not make him "Just a kid from NY".
Lmao no he doesn't, he's a spoiled baby and he acts like one
we're so into politics as sport, that when one politicians says something halfway decent we retroactively decide he's good
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And yet he still has a more grounded take than most US politicians. That’s how bad the baseline is.