:lathepost: some high profile bluecheck twitter lib is going to call trump a tankie
They do love to call Bernie supporters fash, so it would make sense to complete the loop at some point
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/11/01/understand-trumps-gop-we-need-look-lenin-mao/
They didn't call him a tankie yet, they would though. NYT used the term for the first time just a little while ago.
Its so fucking awesome that trump is pro-vax and kind of likes china now. That is the ultimate next step in his swag arc. The LameStream media will have no idea how to handle this
kind of likes china now
Nah, he was still advocating that PRC pay 60T as reparations.
For spreading China-Virus™️ obviously.
Let's just ignore stuff like how the Spanish Flu actually started in the USA and yanks did diddly dick about it. :meow-coffee:
If all of you start being pro-trump i will disavow this website
Trump is a pig and only supports anything conditionally and temporarily for the purposes of self-enrichment and aggrandizement.
But you have to admit that this is funny? He's like a god to these people, but those same above personality traits means he'll shit on them at a moment's notice.
This is the best part of the Trump show: his cult loves him even though he couldn't give two fucks about their well-being beyond the good ratings they give him. And when he openly shits on them, or their way of life, or their morality, or their norms - they love him more.
are you nececarly pro alarich if your desire is to see Rome burn ... ?
Thanks for the reminder, I've asked for this thing so many times, but it's been a little while since I've made use of it:
Folks, the bourgeois, they’re no good, more and more people are saying it. All these workers— the biggest, we have the biggest workers— very handsome workers come up to me and say, Comrade Trump there is a specter haunting Europe, and you know what, they’re right. These bourgeois are very nasty people, very very rude, and very unfair to the workers. They are stealing our surplus value and no one is doing ANYTHING about it, believe me. The proletariat comes up to me every day and says, Comrade Trump will you lead the revolution? And I gotta turn to them and say look, the instruments of capitalism will be used to bring about its destruction, believe me. The means of production, Obama never wanted to seize them. Well guess what? I’m seizing them. Landlords? They’re done for folks. Everyone told me— they said, Comrade Trump you won’t be the vanguard of the revolution and they would laugh, the media laughed the Democrats laughed, guess who’s laughing now?
omicron variant:
Folks, what we did in 1917–the Revolution we call it, with a capital R— it's never been done before. So many big beautiful red flags, you couldn't even— now that, folks, that's a flag we stand up for, we don't kneel for our terrific red flag— and you couldn't even see the Winter Palace. You know the Mensheviks, and Renegade Kautsky, they said we couldn't do it! They said, "Oh, Vlad, the material conditions are bad, we have to have a bourgeois republic to develop the forces of production." You know what that means, right? Semi-feudal economy! Well, look at where we are now, Julius. We are going to develop the forces of production so fast it'll make your head spin. We are going to do in a generation what it took them many, many years to do.
We're bringing back bread, folks! And not just bread, but peace too— and you know, the Left-SRs, they're very nasty to me about Brest-Litovsk, they say I make bad deals with the Germans, even though, nobody does treaties better than me, and the Germans are tough, but when they deal with me they know my reputation, they know I make the best deals, and you know, many people in Germany, they say they want Lenin too! Little pickelhaub man is scared, because he knows that we have built an incredible movement, and we are gonna have world revolution, the biggest revolution anyone has ever had. But, still, you know, the fake bourgeois media, the white guards, they say "He colluded with the Germans, he got on the train, did this did that"— and they're just crazed. They are really crazed. Right. And we can't just let that happen, because there's nothing to do with Germany, nothing at all. Total witch hunt. Very unfair.
There was a good one where he calls Bernie Sanders a Menshevik that I wish I could find
Lol it's like she's got reigns on him and is pulling his head down towards the water and but he's got hydrophobia and keeps running away from it.
Lol it’s like she’s got reigns on him and is pulling his head down towards the water
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Trump has a more grounded take on Chinese affairs than basically any other person in establishment politics lmfao
It's honestly creepy how aware the actual bourgeoisie are about class warfare and aspects of materialism compared to the dipshit propagandists they put out there in the media. We're finally hearing Trump speak without a Republican speechwriter (badly) keeping him on rails, and usually only their point guy Tucker Carlson is allowed to talk in terms of class.
Like "comrade Trump" is good slop as a meme and everything , but it's also skeeves me the fuck out when they speak "my language" so much more clearly than people I run into in daily life, or even in media, I usually have to get down into my niche within my niche on this site to get that lol.
I've said this before, but smart corporate leadership and politicians are some of the staunchest Marxists in the USA, they're just on the "other side".
Wtf he’s a billionaire head of an international conglomerate of businesses he absolutely is bourgeoisie
Technically you could say Trump is more like "aristocracy" than "bourgeoisie" since he's a property baron, but that distinction hasn't meant anything in 100 years.
Well no because owning land and collecting rent is not strictly the same as owning "means of production", but that distinction has become less meaningful.
Once a dwelling is wielded in a profit generating manner, it becomes a means of production because it is a way of using capital to produce profit/more capital for the owner
https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/wiki/class might help you understand the distinctions of class more clearly.
I thought bourgeois just meant middle class
ok I guess I was wrong
Others have provided you with good answers but I cannot recommend enough the Citations Needed episode about exactly this
bourgeoisie = noun for people who build wealth through means of ownership, especially the thousand or so billionaires who have the highest concentration of wealth
bourgeois = adjective describing the above, whether literally or culturally (like "boujee"): "making money from the factory that you've been to is bourgeois." "dressing fancy and going to an opera is bourgeois"
Like our comrade mentioned, we also using it semi-ironically or unironically toward the privileges of the American "middle class", some of which can accurately be described as "bourgeois"
In leftist spaces it's pretty much never used that way and when radicalizing libs it's one of the FIRST distinctions I bring up cause it can make richer people feel like part of the thing. Bring em in and then make them feel guilty about being rich, then they give money to leftist shit instead of just taking their chips off the left table. We don't need libs, but we do need their money.
What? No, that's not how class distinction works for Marxists. Middle class is borderline meaningless.
I think that definition was coined when upper class meant "literal aristocrats and royalty."
He very clearly is bourgeois and has been for his entire life, what on earth definition of bourgeois are you using that doesn't include billionaire real estate tycoon Donald Trump?
we're so into politics as sport, that when one politicians says something halfway decent we retroactively decide he's good
Trump talks and acts like a kid from Queens. That's part of why the elite hate him so much. He may have gone to Wharton and be a billionaire who lived on Central Park but he still acts like the guy in a working class bar who will slap the shit out of someone who gives him lip or disrespects him.
Buddy, we are materialists here. Sam Walton in a baseball cap is not a salt of the Earth farm boy, and Trump being a pro-wrestling fan does not make him "Just a kid from NY".
And yet he still has a more grounded take than most US politicians. That’s how bad the baseline is.
Does Trump usually curse? I don't think I've ever seen him curse, I can't imagine what "there isn't a fucking thing we can do about it" would sound like coming from him. Just seems odd.
Yeah, he does. You can hear him curse quite a bit in his rallies... In more official settings he tends not to, but in private he for sure has a potty mouth (remember also "grab them by the pussy", etc). At his rallies I know he has dropped a couple f bombs, a couple "son of a bitch" etc all on video.
Does any other country fund their schools like the US does, at the district level?
It sounds so silly. Over here in NL where you live doesn't even really have any bearing on what school your kids can go to. Many people choose one close by out of convenience, but you're free to send them wherever.
Isn't your ability to send kids to far-away schools a function of wealth?
Don't know about NL, but it is quite common in europe to have free or heavily subsidized public transit for schoolkids, so you usually have a few schools to choose from. The question would be more aboute private or boarding schools, but not all education systems are quite as stratified like the british, so the quality of education doesn't vary as much between public and private school. Also it tends to be more of a thing for the uber-elite, fairly well off people are fine with public schools.
Of course there is class based discrimination, but this is based more on a class-race intersection and teachers behaviour (and a more complicated topic and I'm running out of effort for this post)
Nobody is going to commit themselves to having to drop off their kids by car every day to make it to elementary school. "Far away" is generally still going to be "they'll have to take the bike when they're old enough". Most instances of school choice are either about parents being picky about the type of education and going for something like Montessori, or a school with a higher focus on the arts. Which is more about middle class hipsterism than race.
Boarding schools have been a thing among the ultra-wealth for centuries.
There are expensive private schools here, but very small numbers. Like 18 across the whole country for primary education, you can look them up here. Visibly upperclass twats are not that prevalent, our Calvinistic roots are showing there, it's okay to be filthy rich but you're supposed to hide your power levels a bit. Most of the upper class send their kids to regular schools.
but you’re free to send them wherever.
That's openly racist. If given free choice whites will cluster their kids together in all-white schools. There was a big Supreme Court decision in the 70s that made this illegal.
I don't think there's such a thing as an 'all-white school' here. You'll find some geographical clustering of immigrant populations, and consequently inner city schools may have a higher grade of diversity than an elementary school in some kind of podunk town, but as far as I've ever seen never to the point that there were no white kids in inner city schools, and even in the smaller municipalities (like my own town that houses under 5000 people) the make-up of the school population is definitely not 'all-white' either.
Not saying that there's no racism here, way too many liberals for there not to be. But school choice as a tool for white flight is not really how that worked out here.
I don’t think there’s such a thing as an ‘all-white school’ here.
Because the Supreme Court made it illegal. Please try to follow along.
That's great, but that court has no jurisdiction in the Netherlands.
Then how are they going to have racially integrated schools? Whites certainly won't do it voluntarily. How is the black population supposed to get a good education if they're all segregated into ghetto schools with high crime and poor teachers?
By not having an insane education system in the first place. There are no 'ghetto schools' to begin with, and extra funds are allocated to any school with lots of immigrants who need extra attention.
Doesn't mean we don't have any racism, unfortunately. But that racism isn't being reinforced by the education system like in the US.
Just to blow your mind further, even the most racially diverse inner city schools here don't have:
- metal detactors
- police officers
- underpaid teachers
Plenty of places in America let you send your kid wherever you want, and at least where I grew up it was mostly kids of color choosing to go to the "better" suburban schools, not white kids clustering. It actually was a problem more for the kids who didn't have transport out to the suburbs because it created a brain drain effect.
If given free choice whites will cluster their kids together in all-white schools.
They do that under every system.
Yes. It’s awful. I think it is a system designed to support charter schools, since they are not bound by the same rules as public schools.
It's a system designed to segregate access to public spending. Redline housing, then limit school funding to the money raised in certain neighborhoods, then scare people into their ethnic enclaves by complaining about how brown people ruin social services.
Charter schools are all about privatizing educational funding. But it will take us in the opposite direction. One-size-fits-all profit driven education, where you P2W for class rank and GPA.
I said this as someone working in a public school. We have a charter school next door that doesn’t take in any refugees from the nearby camps because they have never applied. Refugees of course take up more resources, even in the ideal case where they adapter culturally and have no emotionalismens trauma. Just translators alone are a significant expenditure, and charter schools working to segregate everything further is a very real and current problem for me. Everything is fair on paper. Every student gets the same amount of money from the municipality. A real school will never be able to compete with one that gets to select its students for using less resources.
Ok, rant over.
Ah, the Dems will be able to reuse the "Joe Biden hates all chinese people" commercial.
She keeps trying to toss him lines to GO OFF on with attacks and the weird old man just wants to say he’s great and a hero.
Does he even have any coherent stance or his coherent stance is "I am always right"? Him saying good things about China is just going to give libs more arsenal to be anti China now. Can't wait until some r/politics user call anti imperialists "Trump fans".
Him saying good things about China is just going to give libs more arsenal to be anti China now.
Fine. Good. Let's do to China what we did to Russia. Make Republicans incredibly cool with it simply to spit Democrats.
