was on a rural farm that week, missed it
according to the one thing i saw she posted about a sexual assault from a high ranking party official so other women would feel like its okay to come forward since she could. 30 minutes later the tweet and her account is taken down and she disappears, then a few days later she gives what appears to be a scripted apology saying she made it up.
that could be totally wrong/inaccurate i got no clue, so whats up?
Reading through what she wrote, it seems like an older party official abused his position to pressure her into a relationship which she later regretted (and probably did at the time tbh) The dude comes across as a greasy creep and I'd not be at all surprised if he was guilty of sexual assault but it's not amazingly clear from what she did write that sexual assault happened here. China prob needs to do better when it comes to protecting victims of sexual assault but you'd say that about any country. Not to diminish the seriousness of it at all tbh.
Especially the US where they had a billionaire who supplied the ruling classes with children to rape killed in prison.
Yeah I'm sure the weaponisation of sexual assault charges will go about as well as the weaponisation of antisemitism.
she posted about an affair she had with a high ranking party official, then deleted the post. western media mistranslated it as a rape. She did not disappear, she's been seen in public and had contact with the IOC, and even more recently asked everyone to stop making up these stories. of course, off camera was most definitely a CCP enforcer with a script and a gun because that's the only way she would try to correct this record
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2021/12/new-york-times-covers-up-its-debunked-lies-about-tennis-star-peng-shuai-by-adding-new-ones-.html
In the interview with Lianhe Zaobao, a Chinese-language Singaporean newspaper, Ms. Peng, 35, said, “First, I want to stress a very important point — I never said or wrote that anyone sexually assaulted me.”
“There may have been misunderstandings by everyone,” she said of her initial post on Weibo.
Ms. Peng also denied that she had been under house arrest or that she had been forced to make any statements against her will.
“Why would someone keep watch over me?” she said. “I’ve been very free all along.”
After quoting Peng Shuai's spontaneous statement, which debunks everything the Times had claimed about her, the paper goes on to put doubt on her very clear explanation:
Her denial drew skepticism from human rights advocates, who have said that Chinese officials appear to have corralled her into rehearsed video appearances.
Kenneth Roth, the executive director of Human Rights Watch, said on Twitter that Ms. Peng’s latest statement was “only deepening concerns about the pressure to which the Chinese government is subjecting her.”
Calling it an affair is 😬
A much older senior party official abused his position to pressure her into a sexual relationship.
It might not legally qualify as a sex crime, but it's abusive and predatory behavior which shouldn't be tolerated.
Like, this shit
About three years ago, Zhang Gaoli vice president, you retired. You asked Dr. Liu at the Tianjin Tennis Centre to contact me, and asked me with play tennis with you at Kang Ming Hotel in Beijing. After we finished playing tennis, you and your wife Kang Jie brought me to your home. Then you took me into your room. Like what happened ten years ago in Tianjin, you wanted to have sex with me. That afternoon I didn't agree, and I kept crying. I had dinner with you and auntie Kang Jie together. You said the universe is very very big. The earth is merely a speck of sand in the universe, and us human beings are smaller than even a speck of sand. You said a lot more than that, and the purpose was basically to persuade me to drop my guard. After dinner, I was still not willing to have sex. You said you hated me. You said in those seven years, you never forgot about me, and you will treat me well etc... I was terrified and anxious. Taking into consideration the affection I had for you seven years ago, I agreed... yes, we had sex.
Is predatory behaviour and just because the NYT is being an imperialist bumrag about it doesn't make doing apologetics for a sexual predator less harmful.
To whom was harm done by grandparent by calling it an affair? Peng Shui clearly describes an affair in her account - I recommend reading all of it - even though we can validly bring up power imbalances and pressuring (she also explicitly states it has nothing to do with power).
You will see, in the rest of this thread, a conspicuous absence of describing the concerted Western media campaigns as lies, which they are. Exaggerations and inventions, creating their own stories about Peng Shui "disappearing" or claiming to have been assaulted, stories that have legs not because anyone is trying to have a hard discussion about power dynamics or sexual pressuring / consent in sports, but to blast "China bad" in yet another round of breathless "journalism".
Hexbears are not, overall, great on China. There's a decent contingent that is, but few are free of liberal brainworms about it. A fairly well-upbeared comment is even speculating about seeing China cover up rape. As always, propaganda is about emphasis and what we end up talking about, how we frame discussions and (usually fail) to acknowledge uncertainty and important questions like, "who is saying this, why are they saying it, and how do they know it?"
Yeah this is my take, but I didn't know how to word it exactly.
Thanks for the nuance as always
uh the translation MoA cites clearly shows it was more than an affair
"After dinner, I was still not willing to have sex. You said you hated me. You said in those seven years, you never forgot about me, and you will treat me well etc... I was terrified and anxious. Taking into consideration the affection I had for you seven years ago, I agreed... yes, we had sex."
what the fuck is MoA bc they clearly read the translation of a person coming forward to speak out against a prominent party member assaulting and abusing them and defend it??
More than just an affair, given the significant power imbalance, for sure.
But I don't think your quote indicates assault, at least not physical. Significant pressure maybe.
Ultimately, according to your translation, she "agreed" in light of her "affection". (Edit: After a lot of badgering.)
I want to discuss with my Chinese coworkers after the new year because I find it hard to trust any translation out there or understand the nuances, but at the moment I'm thinking: Imbalanced, inapropriate, manipulative and abusive relationship by a POS party official who I hope China deals with, and that the ultimate result is transparent.
she posted about an affair, western media mistranslated it as rape.
Redguard's law of projection: every accusation they make is a direct indicator of what is actually going on at home
This accusation is further evidence of the rape/sexual abuse that goes on at every level of Western politics. (Which we already knew about, but still)
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Someone in China does bad thing
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Western media: "this proves that communism is evil"
That's really all you need to know. What actually happened is secondary to the hatemongering.
They know this will be the end result of decrying the state and the party. If it wasn't, they'd start decrying it outright.
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china may be socialist but it's also socially conservative - there are many conflicts between the young (i.e. liberal) and the old (i.e. the ones with the power). this controversy is probably another part of that battle.
why it's blown up internationally is because western media went ballistic and china followed by shutting it down. probably because they want to keep internal matters private. maybe it's being handled behind the scenes, maybe not. that's my take anyways.
in addition, if you see radlibs bring this up to show how "western governments/societies" are better on social issues, remind them about epstein. western govt.s have covered up much worse.
remind them about epstein
Not just that. Remember the doctor that sexually abused hundreds of US gymnasts?
That shit was uncovered this year, but the story just disappeared in a week or so. But hey, China bad, amirite?
CW: Sexual violence
The USA gymnastics team should not have been able to compete under the US flag. The punishment against Russia for state sanctioned doping is apparently harsher than that of state sanctioned rape in US gymnastics.
I'm sorry, would you prefer I find a mainstream amerikkkan newspaper to report accurately on this?
Comments in the reddit thread discuss it. Better translation than "you pressured me to have sex" is "you pressed me to begin an affair", considering his wife was there and knew about their relationship
oh! that must have been why peng shuai just gave an interview where she said “First, I want to stress a very important point — I never said or wrote that anyone sexually assaulted me.”
https://www.reddit.com/r/tennis/comments/qmn69a/full_translation_of_peng_shuais_weibo_post/
That afternoon I was very afraid. I did not expect this to happen - someone helped guard outside (translator note: not very clear what she's trying to say here), because nobody would believe that a wife would allow this. About seven years ago, we had sex. Then later on after you got promoted to be a member of the Politburo Standing Committee in Beijing, you never contacted me again. I used to bury everything inside me. After all, if you didn't want to take any responsibility, why did you come back for me, and brought me to your home to have sex? It is true that I don't have evidence. It is also not possible to leave evidence. Later on you kept denying, but it is true that you were attracted to me first, otherwise I couldn't have been able to come into contact with you.
doesn't say "force"
everything else fits perfectly well in the context of a prominent politician having an affair
a comment in that thread:
One correction to this translation. I wrote this elsewhere but will reproduce it here.
Keywords are 逼 and 发生关系. Both have several meanings. Context is important. 逼 means force OR press for something. In context, there is no way for the man involved to force the relationship absent violence or coercion, so in this case it's pressed. 发生关系 means "establish a relationship" or "have an affair". Given the context that the man involved is married, the translation would be "have an affair".
Thus the correct translation is "you pressed me to have an affair with you". It's a moot point because in the same post she said that she consented.
Taking into consideration the affection I had for you seven years ago, I agreed… yes, we had sex.
I agreed… yes, we had sex.
I agreed
agreed
From what I've gathered about the thing was that it was a Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky type thing that Peng ended up commenting on at some point, and is now being spun into some big Chinesr-state conspiracy.
