they knew ... logistics
Their war machine was literally crippled by them being absolute dogshit at logistics and coordinating manufacturing. Throughout the war they continuously neglected logistics when maneuvering and got the absolute shit kicked out of them as a result, with their tanks breaking down and left unable to be repaired and soldiers running out of supplies. Their core strategy was just charging full speed ahead and hoping they won so they could move supplies up, and once counter strategies were developed that stopped working even a little as it just meant their wild charges were isolated and surrounded with no options to resupply.
the constant exaltations of German 'quality' is so fucking pathetic. Yeah, German engineering, so superior in its understanding of logistics that you need a ball bearing that only operates with its own circuit board and is shipped from the Mines of Moria to construct a steel box that moves.
They knew logistics so well that their tanks needed 50,000 different parts just to operate while Russian tanks were literally modular toasters that could be retrofitted with a mini textile mill.
Like, genuinely, German cars are about as fucking shite and unreliable as American cars, and that's saying something.
The first German to find an AK-47 must have thought it was ancient alien technology.
‘Why is it still working after a light rain??’ :rage-cry:
What? You don’t want a watchmaker to make your guns for you?
Laugh if you must but I have a soft spot for the G11 because it's so odd and experimental
And on top of that their quality control was so bad that even within the same model if a part was from a different factory (or even just a different production run in the same factory) it was incompatible.
no surprise that the country that made Nazis also makes products with low tolerances
Something that often gets lost in T-34 vs Panzer comparisons is the fact that not only did the Soviets build about twice as many tanks as the Germans over the course of the war, their tanks were also built with field serviceability in mind meaning that a higher proportion of Soviet tanks remained in action at any given time. If a T-34 it broke down you could re-track it or patch the engine or whatever you needed to do, unlike a Panther which needed specialized facilities.
way more than twice as many thousands of Nazi tanks verses tens of thousands of Soviet tanks and that's just Nazi vs Soviet tank deployment if you add in US tank production it's thousands vs just under a hundred thousand
Wikipedia gives 49,777 German vehicles produced versus 107,311 Soviet vehicles. Lend lease adds an additional 12,000 armored vehicles, but the majority of it was jeeps and trucks.
So 2.4 to 1.
meh 2.4 times vs 2 times is actually a decent amount when dealing with big numbers
Yeah, but Tigers bro
Ignores that Tigers broke down so damn often that only a fraction of them were ever in service
More fun Tiger facts: Germany had to put out a call to tankers to not tow a broken Tiger with another Tiger, because their shitty gearbox was not rated for it. Meaning that you would sometimes have a scenario where one broken Tiger turned into two lmao
Currently imagining two german squads trying to fix two massive tanks in a flat grassland with no air superiority. :wholesome:
to be fair their tanks also broke down because they were badly made and over engineered. Not just the logistics people were wildly incompetant
The paradox of "face". Not being embarrassed (or losing face) is paramount in East Asian society. However, instead of behaving in a way that ensures you are not embarrassed (i.e build the dorms properly in the 1st place) , people still do stupid shit (cut corners during construction) but get upset when it's pointed out.
ITS CALLED SHAME AND EMBARRASSMENT, YOU FUCKING DUMBASS ITS NOT SOME ORIENTAL MYSTICISM THAT ONLY FUCKING EXISTS IN CHINA
Same energy as high school teachers explaining that romantic love is a western invention and does not exist in east Asia with the sole exception of Japan.
:yea:
unfortunately I am not making this up, I got to hear that shit from teachers several times.
In communist east asia (Japan is not asian*, it's part of the International Community), the government will issue you a spouse with which you need to create 2.3 offsprings within 5 years or your social credit score will be erased. relationships are treated like industrial production quotas. in the democratic west, we have the freedom to fall in love and marry whoever we want. relationships are romantic. this is the basic fundamental difference between the west and the east.
*for non-pornographic readings of the word
people talk about how east asians can't ever lose face then talk about the importance of your personal brand without even blinking
The way face actually works is you build it by doing attacks and not getting hit back, and when your meter fills you glow and you can do a running tackle on anybody -- even the big guys that normally grab you -- and do a ground-and-pound finisher. At high enough levels you even regenerate health.
also if you get a nice foot massage or wear a cool outfit your meter fills up faster. in china I see dudes maxing out their face meter pretty much daily, it's pretty sweet
I absolutely loath the levels of exoticism built up around east asian countries. oH nO tHeY tReAt InSiDe AnD oUtSiDe Of ThE hOuSeHoLd DiFfErEnT. YEAH SO DO WE :agony-limitless:
I thought the story was gonna be that the Stockholm bridge collapsed, but no, the big climax is that the bridge is still standing but that guy thinks it might be in bad shape 5 years from now. Lmao these dweebs.
Americans are deeply concerned with not losing face (brand reputation) and will actively cover up and perpetuate flaws rather than admit fault
Even if certain Chinese products are of low quality, have these bazinga brains considered that perhaps the reason for that is that... they're cheap, and so are made to lower standards?
"Oh, why would they use Chinese instead of Swedish steel", because it's cheaper you fuck, even after paying for the cost of shipping it all the way over from China, it's fucking cheaper. Literally staring right at a problem created entirely by capitalist greed and going "actually, it's because Chinese manufacturing is bad"
me buying a cheap product :sicko-yes:
me finding out it's low quality :sicko-no:
These dweebs would buy the cheapest sword in a video game and be like "NOOO :frothingfash: IT DOES TOO LITTLE DAMAGE!".
yeah, it's like these people can't grasp the concept of "you get what you pay for" (or they conveniently forget about it when it gives them an opportunity to do some racism). The whole point of offloading manufacturing onto the developing world was saving costs, so obviously you're going to get shittier products in return. If you have a problem with that, then... well done - you've found out capitalism's bad, I guess you have no choice but to become a communist now :xibe-check:
"Why does capitalism value affordability over safety?"
And now we're getting somewhere.
Nothing good has ever come after "Say what you will about the Nazis, but..."
Say what you will about the nazis, but they can't hear you cause stalin killed them
Say what you will about the Nazis, but they make funny sounds when you toss them into a mineshaft
Say what you will about the Nazis but it's frankly hilarious that they were so ideologically committed to their myth of superiority that they were thoroughly unable to deal with getting rocked from Stalingrad straight down to Berlin.
The anecdote that elucidated the stupidity of the Nazis was that the Japanese, you know the fascists who started a second front against the USA while being bogged down in a massive war in China, thought that operation barbarossa was unfeasibly fucking stupid.
"Say what you will about National Socialism, but at least it's an ethos, Dude."
:stalin-gun-1::stalin-gun-2: SHUT THE FUCK UP, WALTER! YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT.
The first thing that comes to mind when I think about the Nazis is their top-notch steal quality.
Hitler not knowing logistics is exactly why the Turd Reich crashed and burned you imbecile
No it was the Asiatic hordes, they can't fight fair :wojak-nooo: :pit:
Goddamn, there's not even a little pushback in that thread. Also a bunch of people talking about "face" like its 2005 and getting all the upvotes. Truly :reddit-logo:
Also, all steel comes from China, if a steel bridge in Sweden is rusted to shit its becuase a Swedish engineer fucked up since they were taught race science in school and not about galvanic corrosion.
lmao love the genius blaming shitty American construction on China. Did they also build that condo that collapsed in Florida? Does China have a contract to build and then never maintain all of America's bridges and highways?
China does in fact make tons of garbage, it's called capitalism.
Nazi steel would be terrible, how do you expect good products from slave labour and beaten-down workers?
Meanwhile, when they do see pics & articles about China’s amazing infrastructure, theybe like: HITLER ALSO BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE —> CHINA IS NAZISM.
