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From an “anonymous source” too. And libs eat this shit up.

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  • Snackuleata [any]
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    2 years ago

    That’s why we must support the nazis in Ukraine. For their stellar track record upholding LGBT+ rights.

  • Mizokon [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Ukraine meanwhile is very friendly towards minorities and LGBTQ+ people. :centrist:

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I've mostly stayed out of the Ukraine discourse, but I have to chime in. Without doxxing myself, let me just say that I had the most traumatizing experience of my life in Donetsk. Really loved being the target of anti gay slurs from a couple hundred people for an evening. Nothing will change for queer people in the Donbas regardless of who is in charge, it will suck.

    • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I’m so sorry that happened to you and I’m glad you’re safe now. Bigotry is a huge fucking issue across Eastern Europe and it’s extremely gross hearing people talk like it would somehow be different just because there are more Russian troops in that region now.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Oh my god there was an absolutely fawning piece in the Swedish papers today about "anonymous anti-russian desinformation elves" who bragged about telling the truth and fighting against the "Russian trolls" and the entire fucking time in the piece they never bring up the fact that "hey we have no idea who these guys are or if their counter-propaganda is real and verifiable".

    Just regular propaganda playbook shit, anonymous sources and defectors = total bullshit, completely made up.

    Edit: I realized how weird it sounds to say "anti-russian desinformation elves" but thats literally what they named themselves, theres a whole quote from them about how "Elves are pure and good beings that fight the evil dirty Trolls", they're fucking hiring Tolkien fans who just actually like the weird racial subtext in LOTR as propaganda experts now.

    • Dingus_Khan [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Love how if one's point supports the maintenance of the status quo you needn't provide any sources, and the lib media will spread it far and wide with no thought. But if I want to espouse some anti imperialism I need a whole book of receipts and a video of a politician saying that they're doing imperialism before anyone will believe it

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Honestly, just replace "anti-russian disinformation elves" with "annoying redditor" and the piece makes a lot more sense.

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    New way for libs to compare people who don't want to carpet bomb Russia and support fashy militias to Nazis just dropped :doomer:

    • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      They’re literally trotting out the exact same shit they’ve been pushing about China. Even down to sketchy human rights groups back by Free Radio Europe claiming there are concentration camps…

      It’s so gross to have multiple parts of my identity and culture weaponized to try and manufacture support for literal nazis.

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    The famous bastion of LGBTQ liberation: Ukraine and the United States :ukkkraine: :amerikkka: Russia sucks as well but lol at westerners thinking they have any moral high ground in this aspect.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Tomorrow: Putin is plotting to grow a moustache so he can twist it while laughing menacingly as he kills every Ukrainian puppy.

  • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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    2 years ago

    I don’t know much about gay rights in Ukraine but is it notably better than Russia? What’s with all the Libs acting like Kyiv is San Francisco?

    • POKEMONGOTOTHEGULAG [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Kharkiv is apparently chill about LGBT people (as it goes in Eastern Europe) and when I visited I saw a lesbian couple and some transrights grafitti, but it's nothing officially endorsed by the government obviously. Also neo-nazi groups like to target LGBT rallies. I imagine there are similarly LGBT semi-tolerant attitudes in Moscow though, being a such a huge and diverse city.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        2 years ago

        St Petersburg is where you want to go if you are LGBT in Russia the city's culture pretty young and "western." But it's not like you are going to get executed anywhere else though you might be harassed by assholes. Headline is insane because there are plenty of LGBT people living in Russia and they aren't being targeted for killings by the evil Putin.

      • Gosplan14 [any]
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        2 years ago

        I found some Anarcho-Communist graffiti and posters in my grandma's town in far-eastern Poland. That doesn't really mean anything for the general quality of life or support for the left and other progressive causes tbh

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah, I'm sure all the countries that are concerned definitely treat their LGBTQ+ citizens well

    Love to have part of who I am weaponized in such an interesting way!

    • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      :capitalist-woke:

      “trust us, we definitely care about all LG this time. What’s that? Yes, I know the rest of the acronym…”

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/sy39yq/putin_we_recognize_the_donetsk_dpr_and_lugansk/hxwjfc2/

    found an interesting comment on genzedong...

    Essentially, according to EuphoricZombieBoi, this whole crisis in Ukraine was the US strengthening its position among its allies and further undermining Russia. That they're ramping up propaganda against Russia is to convince US and European domestic populations of the necessity of NATO. The US state is playing a long game of splintering its rivals of Russia and China to ensure continued global hegemonic domination; the trough must always be full and overflowing.

  • cybernetsoc [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Sources also claim Putin is kicking every Ukrainian puppy he can get his hands on, and having cute cats summarily executed.

  • The_Champsky [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Those fucking idiots, they just increased support for Russia among the westerners.