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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Please add to this if you can.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Good, they'd just be shot down instantly. It would be such a waste to send them over.

      Also good to prevent further escalation

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, and the Mig 29 has a very short fuel limited range by modern fighter standards. It's why Russia does not use it anymore. With all the airfields in Ukraine bombed, and Russian air defence and air superiority, it would be impossible to operate.

          • SoyViking [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Didn't the EU wait to promise these fighter jets until Russia has announced they now had air superiority, essentially making the promise an empty gesture they knew they wouldn't have to deliver on?

    • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]M
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      2 years ago

      the eastern European countries are looking infinitely more sensible than the western ones right now

      • CoralMarks [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        In the end they're just covering their own asses in the event that there would be a confrontation between NATO and Russia.

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      :michael-laugh:

      Do you think he promised them without realising they'd have to be ones that the Ukrainians can already fly? Not thinking that they'd likely come from the poorer, underrepresented EU countries who probably aren't going to gleefully hand over millions in hardware to the clown next door, especially if he might lose and a Russia friendly state ends up on their border.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        I also can't imagine the logistics of it. Do they fly them in? Are they claiming to be a noncombatant while they're flying a fighter jet into occupied airspace? Or do they drive them in? In that case, who wants to be the guy who drives that big fat juicy target over the border into occupied territory? It sounds like a suicide run to me. Or does the donor country allow Ukrainian military pilots to take off from their own territory? Sounds like an invitation for some cruise missles to arrive at whatever airfield they departed from.

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      9 months ago

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      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]M
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        2 years ago

        The only good thing about the development of a totally encompassing media that lowers your attention span due to all the competing interests and corporations vying for it is that, as this is essentially a slow-drip TV series where Putin is the evil Russian villain, most of the west will get bored within the next week or two. Putin simply isn't ordering massive strikes and such that would keep your attention span focussed on it, he's being incredibly deliberate.

    • Vncredleader [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Wait even Poland wont send them?

      edit: the op following up shocked Bulgaria wouldn't send planes it cannot afford to lose when russia is "knocking at their door". Doubt they care much about Bulgaria, but also if that was true you would likely preserve your airforce

    • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Hungary also declined that military equipment for Ukraine be transported across the country saying it would just bring the conflict to the areas of ukraine where hungarians live.

    • TheGhostOfTomJoad [he/him,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Wouldn't matter much anyway, before I went to bed last night I saw a video of SU-34s flying low over Ukraine. No mig is competing with those planes

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Su 34 is a ground attack aircraft though. It can defend itself relatively well in air to air combat apparently, but it's primary role is still ground attack.

        It's basically a ground attacker that doesn't need an escort.

        • TheGhostOfTomJoad [he/him,they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Ah, I see. If they're confident enough to deploy them yesterday they must feel they have air superiority no matter what nato supplies Ukraine with? Idk, I'm not a big aviation person but the wiki page and the tests they've done that we know of makes it an impressive and scary aircraft

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah basically. It's a flanker/su 27 that was upgraded in every way for ground attack missions, using data from Soviet and Russian experimental planes like the su 37. And since it's based off a su 27/flanker, it's still agile and capable in air to air combat. But sending them in means they're relatively confident in air superiority. And it can defend itself well unlike old attackers like the su 25, both with jamming and radar systems (the rearwards facing radar in the spike between the two engine exhausts is a very important countermeasure against missiles) and with its own air to air and air to ground capabilities.