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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Please add to this if you can.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
Thank you.
Previous megathreads:
This just in: an American Reddit volunteer has just halted the Russian advance by exposing the logical fallacies that were being used in justifying the invasion.
Some people literally want to watch the world burn.
People really seem believe Putin's going to move onto Poland next and then beyond across Europe. They've lost their minds.
My dad thinks Putin is the new Hitler who will invade Poland, the Baltics, Finland etc. just because he is a "mad dictator".
Dog brain analysis
No offense to your dad of course he’s just repeating the cia narrative
Yeah, it's amazing how effective the propaganda machine is. He used to be very sympathetic to Russia's grievances and recognised Putin's intelligence but once the war started a switch flipped and he became a hardcore NATO militarist spouting bullshit about how "they don't think like us" and "Putin only understands force".
He has even been dreaming up a bird-brained scenario in which Putin invades a NATO country (because reasons) and somehow it doesn't turn nuclear.
Fascists and their enemies, all powerful but weak and worthless
Even if that were the case, Poland is a NATO and EU member. That'll trigger a larger war automatically. There's no point rushing into a potential nuclear conflict on a what if.
I know, it's ludicrous. This is a war to specifically avoid what Russia sees as an otherwise certain confrontation with NATO so instead they're going to... (checks notes) ... try to conquer a country already in NATO.
It also negates discussions in the buildup about why Russian aggression justifies Ukrainian membership in NATO. If Russia is willing to invade a NATO state anyway, of what use is NATO membership?
Why on earth would you want to survive a nuclear apocalypse?
Redditors shaking and crying hearing that Eastern Europeans don’t unanimously despise communism
Is there a translation for the whole clip? My spanish is nowhere near good enough to actually understand any of it
So, about those jets the EU promised to send Ukraine. Well, they're not coming.
Good, they'd just be shot down instantly. It would be such a waste to send them over.
Also good to prevent further escalation
the eastern European countries are looking infinitely more sensible than the western ones right now
:michael-laugh:
Do you think he promised them without realising they'd have to be ones that the Ukrainians can already fly? Not thinking that they'd likely come from the poorer, underrepresented EU countries who probably aren't going to gleefully hand over millions in hardware to the clown next door, especially if he might lose and a Russia friendly state ends up on their border.
i don’t mean to be overly paranoid or accusatory toward anything that doesnt agree with me, but does anyone else feel like Anonymous is just America’s cyber-Wagner? a decade after their core ‘membership’ of highly skilled hacktivists were all vanned, they gone from focusing on American government and Wall Street institutions to exclusively targeting America’s enemies.
have the hacktivists like the hippies before them fallen in line with the empire they once stood up to because at their core they were never more than liberals, or does the US use freelance hackers to target cyber-soft-infrastructure like govt departments’ websites and do high profile propaganda stuff like spamming ukrainian/taiwanese flags? does the difference matter when the outcome is the same?
In Denmark a MP from the Red-Green Alliance (a descendant of the Danish Communist Party and nominally committed to socialist revolution, although left-succdem and radlib in practice) has been condemned in the strongest terms, including by his own party leadership.
His crime? Saying that Ukraine had "followed an inappropriate minority policy" in the years leading up to the war.
These days in the imperial core you're not allowed to make any analysis of the situation, you're not allowed to question the NATO narrative, you're not allowed to criticize the western imperialists. Anything short of crying for Russian blood gets you labelled a Russian Putin-loving traitor.
This isn't a particularly original take, but America/NATO really is just a religion for a lot of people, huh? Like, domestically, most people recognize that America is deeply flawed and needs fixing, but as soon as that switches to international, every Gulf of Tonkin/WMD is forgotten and they gobble up whatever comically obvious propaganda is given.
For all the years talking of "Russian disinfo", Ukraine seems to be going hard at the disinformation war. Snake Island, "Ghost of Kyiv", just straight up sharing videos of video games as if they were real, claiming they've totally killed 5000 Russians, it goes on.
And of course Westerners eat that shit up and can't take two seconds to think critically about it. And when the truth is pointed out to them they just plug their ears and pretend they didn't see it.
The west is absolutely using Ukraine as a sacrificial lamb and even the average libs know this. They actually knew that Ukraine isn't going to win, but they doesn't really care about that. What they care about is that the war is making Russia look bad, they're basically giddy at the prospect of Ukrainian civilians getting killed so they can use it as propaganda weapon against Russia. They're already hyped for the prospect of Ukraine becoming a war torn land filled with insurgents throwing their life away to annoy Russia.
The whole thing is just a game for the west. They never face the consequence for the misery they have wrought upon the world. I regretted becoming an atheist in my teenage years, because now I can't ever again comfort myself with the thought that the wicked will go to hell.
The truth about snake island is just hitting reddit now. We’ve known for like 3-4 days now.
In the meantime Libs were spouting this “fact” everywhere. One of the guests on Bill Mahar Friday night cited it as proof of Ukraine’s iron will to win this (and of Russia’s depravity).
So far the reactions I’ve seen are “thank god they are okay! They are so brave!” : :brainworms:
Zelensky certainly would if he was brave, instead of hiding in his bunker hoping the Nazis don't frag him while his country slides into being another Afghanistan.
This really surprises me. When propaganda gets debunked libs usually just moves on to the next bullshit story without looking back.
Why is it different this time?
They’re not tuned into to the OG (very online) sources like we are and it takes time to filter through to their more mainstream media diet. That’s my guess, and of course their bias that makes them believe their preferred narrative and ignore contrary evidence unless it’s on the front page of the Times/the Journal.
It's also because the Ukrainian Navy officially confirmed it finally. Without official confirmation I'm sure they would have believed it forever basically,
Lmao. I finally convinced my partner last night that Russia wasn’t just making it up that they had been captured rather than killed
Taking a lesson out of the Mayor Pete public opinion book: Make assertions now, people won’t care enough that they were incorrect later
What's been funny about trying to explain the context of NATO and the Ukraine from Russia's perspective to libs is that when I say "can you imagine how the US would react to Russia putting nukes in a country right next to America" they pretend like the US would be fine with it lmao. Cuban Missile Crisis who?
