If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Please add to this if you can.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • NPa [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is always the way it goes when you go against the grain. One side can claim 'common sense', 'consensus' and gut feeling is enough evidence for their point of view. The other side has to write a dissertation and use meticulous logic. And it will still be dismissed.

    Don't worry though, take it as a challenge in vetting information and sources, developing your rhetorical abilities and shaping your own syncretic politics. We have the advantage that our beliefs are not fixed and dogmatic, but change according to new information, and being well-read and un-biased can do wonders for being more authoritative and calm in discussions. Meanwhile, liberalism is built on half-truths and idealism, and has to constantly battle cognitive dissonance, which takes away from their persuasive power.

    :lenin-cat:

    • spectre [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      We have the advantage that the truth is on our side

      I upvoted and agree with your post comrade, but I think it could be further improved if you rephrased this part, since it could potentially encourage the same confirmation biased mindset that we're trying to avoid.

      • NPa [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Absolutely. What would be a better framing?

        • spectre [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Could probably go a couple of directions with it, but perhaps something like "We have the advantage that our beliefs bend to the truth" if you wanted to go the opposite direction. I'm thinking about how self-criticism and re-analysis is common and expected when we get something wrong.

          Another option I'd consider would be to appeal to the materialist, socially scientific nature of our analysis as marxists, but if you were explaining this to a liberal they think that they "believe in science" already, and that's enough, so it wouldn't have any rhetorical effect on them. Depends on your audience (which is Hexbear anyway, in this case)

          I meant it more as in that old joke: “Study history for long enough and you either become a communist or a liar.”

          Fair enough, and that's totally appropriate here, I just disdain the smugness projected by liberals about shit like "history has a liberal bias" or whatever and I wouldn't want to see us or our comrades fall into that trap.

          • NPa [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah that makes more sense. That's what I was going for too, when we are proven wrong or our predictions don't pan out, we don't just resort to conspiracy-addled thinking, we update our models and try again.