When the US need to get its oil somewhere else and they really want to deprive Russia of allies, they no longer need :guaido-despair:

  • determinism2 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    “Venezuela has THE largest source of oil reserves yet, we’re handing that to the Chinese and Russians?” she wrote on Twitter on Friday.

    bitch it's not your oil

  • blobjim [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Pretty funny that the US was just kicking Venezuela and now they're coming to them to beg for oil because of a "crisis" of their own making. Yet "Maduro" is supposed to be the one who "mismanaged" their oil extraction :PSUV:

    • cilantrofellow [any]
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      3 years ago

      It is funny but I also think the whole thing with Chavez/Maduro is a different thing. They wanted to fix society first but independence from foreign processors would have saved them from some of the problems they have today. Houston can’t do shit if you have your own modern refineries.

  • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Lmao just ignoring Guaido, after all these years of pretending he was president. He still won tho, got lots of money.

  • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    US officials travel to venezuela to foment another color "revolution" and give lethal "aid" to fascists.

    I guess while they're there they might say hi to maduro or something

  • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    It's funny because the US has plenty of fossil fuels within it's borders, but it would rather import it from other countries than provide Americans with good paying jobs because it would make their urban PMC base uncomfy by increasing extraction on US soil. Like I wish we could be building nuclear plants to offset this, but that isn't happening. The only other options are importing or "drill baby drill" shit, and honestly, as a blue collar worker in the US, I'd prefer the drilling. Ideally, we would be investing in nuclear for short term needs and renewables for long term, but we aren't doing any of that.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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      3 years ago

      provide Americans with good paying jobs

      well theres your problem. good paying jobs for americans cuts into the profits of the oil companies - they couldn't give a shit, and never really have it seems, about the opinions of the "whiny :soy-cutie: lib environmentalists"

      • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I mean there have been plenty of boom times for fossil fuel workers in the US under both of the last two presidents. Shit was great for extraction workers under Obama, probably better than any time in modern history for a bit. It dipped and then recovered under Trump but has been shitty since covid.

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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          3 years ago

          ah the secret is that a lot of those workers were temp contractors getting paid peanuts. sure for them it's quite a bit of money since they're making stupid amounts of overtime, but it's unstable employment, and extremely stressful labor as well and in terms of pay in comparison to what the older laborers that worked the oil pumps back in the day as full-time employees, they're getting bamboozled

          • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah I mean the oil industry is incredibly volatile but it is also an easy way for working class people to stack up some money in a short period of time. I have some cousins on my dad's side who made bank during the last boom. Dudes that were previously making $18/hr driving a Pepsi truck, unloading thousands of pounds of soda every day went to North Dakota and ended up making $2-3000 per week driving fracking sand tankers. They bought houses outright and paid off their debts and are now comfortably middle class because of it. The best part was they didn't have to do physically intensive labor and they never had to deal with urban traffic. Just drive to a sand pit, load up, drive to a delivery site, and blow off the sand. All rural driving.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
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              3 years ago

              Yeah I can't really speak to what southern oil drilling's like but up here that shit is competitive and nepotistic. If you want to make those fat stacks in just a few weeks on the slope, you need to know people in the business to help you get your foot in the door since s lot of the mining up here's switched from expansive drilling to a slowed ecologically preserving drilling (however that makes sense) meaning more of the jobs are geared towards maintenance instead of expansion.

          • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I should mention that "g*pped" is a slur against Romani people, and a pretty serious one at that. I get the feeling that most people using it have no idea that's what it means.

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            1 year ago

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    • CommieElon [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Literally just read an article and oil companies said “we can’t drill anymore if we wanted to”.

      https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/22959903/russia-ukraine-oil-gas-price-europe-us-exports-climate-change

      • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Thanks for linking that. The other coverage in US media I've read about the doubling of natural gas prices, which can cost at least $100 more per month, doesn't mention how exports via pipeline and LNG are the cause.

        I've seen both covid and not setting aside enough supply blamed for this. Some people aren't able to afford this, and they are being lied to by their local TV news and newspapers. I'm glad Vox isn't lying, but most folks in America don't read that website.

    • TheGhostOfTomJoad [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Its too late for nuclear, by the time they're built and ready to fire up we're well past fixing the climate. We needed to build them in the 70s and 80s :sadness-abysmal:

    • Circra [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I might be way off, but I remember reading an argument that it's not about oil and gas as such, even discounting US deposits, US puppet states have access to more oil than you'd ever need, it's about maintaining a level of indirect or direct control over oil globally.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Venezuela has leverage, hopefully they can use it to claw some concessions from the Empire - but I'm afraid the more likely outcome is the Empire increasing pressure on them, possibly even manufacturing a casus belli to go in and forcibly transfer Venezuela's oil reserves out of the Venezuelan people's control and into the international capitalist system.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah it's kind of worrying. They might tell Maduro "cut all ties with Russia, or we're going to carry out a coup against your country via armed insurgency and additional sanctions". But I don't know if it's more about the oil or about "isolating Russia" like the article says. PSUV might just say "screw you, yankees" and ask for a Russian or Chinese military base or something 😆 (okay that's not happening since then the US really would invade).

          • SoyViking [he/him]
            hexagon
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            3 years ago

            Impossible! If Venezuela were to join the Russian-led CSTO alliance, the US would not stand in their way, as recent events have shown us that Washington really feels strongly about countries being allowed to join any alliance they want, with no foreign interference.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    For some reason I'm imagining neoliberal fuming over this after dedicating so much time talking about how the US needs to topple Venezuela.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Well, the government needs to do something about gas prices