imagine if these people were capable of turning their righteous indignation toward their surroundings. obviously they have no principles until the war drums start beating but it consistently amazes me how oblivious they are to the world around them.
of course there are about 300 million holodomor references in the thread as well, take a peek if you want to see the :grillman: to :frothingfash: pipeline in action: https://reddit.com/comments/tsarwx
These same people would rabidly defend a supermarket chain throwing out literal tons of edible food into locked dumpsters, under the premise that homeless people are lawsuit machines.
You can even point out Good Samaritan laws specifically prohibit lawsuits over food poisoning from donated food if there was no harmful intent; they don't care.
Yeah, but typically none of your clients are suing a supermarket chain in a dumbass get-rich-quick scheme from a 90's propaganda movie.
Wonder how long those laws will stay in place as we go deeper into the Cool Zone?
They're usually extended. What passes for mutual aid in the imperial core us charity from the poor to the poor for the most part. It filters into the benefits of the ruling class if the surplus population keeps itself alive with minimal cost. It's why aid needs to come with a strong message attached.
Like how Food Not Bombs insists it's not a charity, because it isn't designed to be patriarchal?
Armed militias will be used to guard your local gas station dumpster in exchange for lottery tickets.
When things get to that point, local gas stations won't exist. The military loves to centralize control.
You'll have one gas station at the center of town, and you'll need to queue for two hours to get your gasoline lottery ticket, then queue for another two hours to turn that ticket in to a pump that's already been drained by a couple of privates selling the fuel on the black market the prior night.
i used to work at one of these supermarkets and they’d throw out like 5-10 perfectly fine rotisserie chickens everyday, not only wasting food but all those chickens just dying for nothing
Like, at a certain level, food waste is going to be normal in any country that produces the kind of surpluses that the US yields. But anyone who tells you people going hungry just deserve to suffer need to be buried to the hips in the agricultural trash we turn out daily.
There's no reason for any of this, except greed.
The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit— and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.
There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate— died of malnutrition— because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.
The FDA estimated that 133 billion pounds of food was wasted in 2010. I imagine the number is much higher in truth considering that includes retail waste and personal waste but not necessarily agriculture waste.
That is already over 1200 times more than this alleged incident. It's also as a fun fact almost the entire estimated mass of all terrestrial wild animals.
Just as a comparison point you know. The USA dumps atleast an amount of food comparable to all wild land animals into landfills every year because line must go up. If the act in the reddit thread is evil than the USA is inherently just in this one thing quantifiably more than 1000x worse.
Fuck I did a whataboutism
https://www.wwf.eu/?4049841/fifteen-per-cent-of-food-is-lost-before-leaving-the-farm-WWF-report
1.2 billion tonnes metric is wasted globally before it leaves the farm
that's 2,204,620,000,000 pounds or over 2 trillion pounds of food or 15% of all food. Once you take the retail waste and personal waste into acount 40% of food is wasted
I don't recall this righteous outrage when federal agents and Portland Police would raid medic tents/food storage and pour pepper spray on everything
I was thinking of how the Chicago police destroyed the panther's food they kept in their warehouse for their children's breakfast program.
People are starving around the world, for fuck sake.
Yeah, I wonder why :curious-marx:
the second you start doing this for dollars hoarded by billionaires there is a squad of armed :stupidpol: s at your door
I seriously wonder: what do you all suppose is the average age of :reddit-logo: nowadays?
I think in most "normal" subs it's still at least in the 20's like it was back in the 2010's, but the default subs (or whatever subs end up on the front page now) can NOT possibly be higher than 16.
there is also a good chance this isn't actually true as it's news from a warzone coming from a country that brags on its information war aspects that's also coming out as food prices rise
Someone should ask The Ghost of Kyiv for their thoughts on this
The rule of thumb that's "believe the opposite of what democrats believe" seems to be going strong
Those same people get furious when the same thing is said about their countries. Used to have angry Americans reply to me saying similar things about their countries with entire paragraphs about how the US is well-meaning and is unfairly portrayed as an evil aggressor.
I remember when telling a friend of mine the US military are no different to the terrorists they fight and he got angry and said "Yeah well, which side is literally gunning people down in their cars?!" I laughed and said both.
Some masochist should reply with a link to an article about the Chicago cops that pissed on the Black Panther's school breakfast supplies.
of course there are about 300 million holodomor references in the thread as well
Sources about anti-communists destroying food and farming equipment: https://web.archive.org/web/20210822183335/https://imgur.com/a/k9MijPN
they alternate like a metronome between saying that communists destroyed the food and heroic Kulaks destroyed the food to protest tyranical collectivisation so the facts aren't super important to these people
God damn I love these performative losers shaking their fists and lamenting the inhumanity of the barbaric Russian horde, which as someone else here noted, is quantifiably over 1,000 times less severe in this case than the inhumanity of the bloodsucking capitalist aristocracy.
The irony is that if our troops did exactly this they'd argue it's a tactical decision and in war you blah blah blah.
