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Sometimes you can win a fight by not fighting, as fighting is actually really expensive and risky
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Maybe consider feeding your army. That can be important both in times of war and peace.
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Please do not lead a frontal charge uphill into a fortified enemy position. I can't believe I have to explain this to you fucking newbs, but it keeps happening so here we are.
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Have you tried being sneaky?
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Read history. Sometimes someone has done a thing before you and you can just copy their homework. Sometimes you can see someone else copying homework and use that to your advantage. Sometimes its just good to know about things other than what you, personally, have seen and done.
Sort of reminds me of the story of Boudicca, who famously led the Britons against the Romans and slightly less famously kinda ate shit
I believe they lost the first major engagement to the Romans, as in the first one that wasn't like cleaning up a town garrison.
They chased a much smaller roman force around for a while, until the Romans basically nestled themselves up against a swamp and some thick trees so they couldnt really be flanked.
The Britons all ran in headfirst into heavy infantry and hit a crowd crush so hard they couldn't use their short spears, axes, long swords etc, while the Romans just chewed them up with their little swords. There was no ability to flank, they just threw light infantry right up into heavy, in a big funnel. Then when they started to run away they realized they had walled themselves in with their wagon train. The Romans then crushed them against that. They mostly all died and the Romans ruled Britain for a long time after.
Basically this legendary general and leader of the united tribes of Britain could have been consulted by any 15 year old who played some Rome Total War. Just a comically unforced error.
Looks like they've learned a lot from Cannae....
Hey mate, I'm old as shit and I have never had any idea of what am I doing when playing TW battles
Well if you're defending a city you can plop 1 or 2 heavy infantry in one of those little streets and hold off like 10 units of anything besides phalanxes or heavier infantry, while your archers get to stand behind and dump their whole quivers into the mess of enemy heads
OK maybe I remember the basics, but I sure was avery slow learner
Like, I remember being genuinely puzzled about why lancers infantry was immune to a cavalry charge
I remember the Mongols getting out of control after conquering a city I holded just because I opened the gates to fight them outside my walls instead of just fucking waiting.
I ain't kidding, my 16 yo self should have read Soon Zoo
Horses are really good at climbing walls. The mongols really forced your hand.
"Just a few hundreds horses, I can chase them out easily with my lancers since they are immune to horses"
God any campaign where you were situated in the Levant turned in to a death slog in 1266 when the Mongols showed up.
I remember the Mongols getting out of control after conquering a city I holded just because I opened the gates to fight them outside my walls instead of just fucking waiting.
I remember exploiting that with a horribly outnumbered army being sieged in a castle by horse archers: I'd repeatedly sally forth and then just wiggle a unit in and out of the gate to draw the AI into range of the towers and a unit of archers on the wall before closing it again, repeating this until the attacking army had obliterated itself.
From what I understand of history, the Mongols IRL struggled badly with sieges until they were able to kidnap enough skilled siege engineers so the Mongol commanders could delegate. Apparently throughout most of history the surest way to survive a war was to yell "I'M A SIEGE ENGINEER AND I KNOW HOW TO BUILD SIEGE WEAPONS" in as many languages as you could - Your engineering expertise was so valuable you'd always be captured instead of killed and treated pretty well. I mean, shit, that's out Verner von Braun ended up in the US working for NASA.
The only problem there is that AFAIK the point where the mongols were unified and motivated to carry out full fledged warfare instead of small raids is immediately followed by them conquering a large swath of China and incorporating their engineers and technology, and the kinds of fortifications they'd be dealing with there (heavy sloped wall earthworks) were both intrinsically resistant to siege weapons and vulnerable to large scale infantry assaults. So by the time they were waging war in eastern europe or the middle east they were both an experienced, professional military machine with excellent logistics and in possession of enough engineering knowledge to build siege weapons.
And of course it has to be said that they didn't pursue that advantage for further conquests because basically their whole motivation was conquering and unifying the various nomadic steppe peoples and their goals for waging war against sedentary kingdoms was either pursuing and subjugating other steppe peoples or responding to attacks/affronts. They weren't some conquering force of nature out to paint the map like a grand strategy game player, they had clear and concrete goals and conquering and holding sedentary kingdoms' land wasn't one of them.
So in TW:M2 they'd be at the point where they'd both have engineers, but also probably wouldn't bother with a castle unless they needed to. They also, obviously, could have dismounted and stormed a castle defended only by a skeleton crew without any trouble. IRL horse archers aren't glued to their mounts any more than knights were, and so horses could just as easily be used for infantry mobility as they could a weapons platform.
Word. Exploiting chokepoints in cities during TW2 in to easy mode.
Fun fact; Washington, DC, was deliberately designed in such a way that cannons could be emplaced to control every major route through the city, while anyone trying to revolt would have no meaningful cover. Apparently when they laid it out they looked at revolts in Europe as an example of what not to do.
Me sieging a city TW:WH2 with Skaven: alright, so first we launch a FULL SCALE FRONTAL ASSAULT UP THE WALLS, as a distraction which we will exploit to tear down the walls and launch ANOTHER FULL SCALE FRONTAL ASSAULT through the breach, as a distraction while we summon more troops behind the enemy lines, as a distraction. We use these distractions to carry out our real plan: raining down poison gas artillery and gatling gun fire indiscriminately on both the defenders and our own troops.
I can't remember if I had one in that battle or not. I know I used one when sieging some insane mountain pass fort, wiping out a huge chunk of the enemies most elite forces before I even got in range of the walls. I think I was rushing the vampire coast as skavenblight and just spammed a stack and a half of the thrall rats on top of the handful of elites I'd gotten, and so I was horribly short on actually good resources and just leaned into the drown-them-in-rats strategy backed up with the ranged firepower to make it work.
It wasn't a great plan, but it was a plan and it did work.
Yup, that's the winning move! Just keep sending hordes of skavenslaves at the front line, and fire those ratling gunners, jezzails, and poisonwind mortars indiscriminately. When I play Skaven I always try to have a second army of cannon fodder sticking close to "regular" armies.
consulted by any 15 year old who played some Rome Total War.
You're telling me I shouldn't be ashamed for corner camping?
Never. You’re just staying there, offering an ass whooping. Anyone takes you up on it, that’s on them
Sounds like Sun Tzu predicted the existence of the Biden Admin and American politics in general.
Nepo shitheads existed in Ancient China just as much as in contemporary America.
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It's really good though but you have to be able to take the specific cases Sun Tzu is talking about and apply them to conflict more generally. Like the "look for different kinds of dust clouds to figure out what your enemy is doing" bit doesn't apply much today, but you can look for tell tale signals that offer insight on the actions of your enemies. Are the pigs on foot or in cars? What kinds of weapons are they carrying? Are they in regular uniforms or riot gear. It sounds obvious, but most people have the same understanding of conflict as those ancient noble failsons
Y'all massively overestimate how much the average person understands about conflict and struggle. Sun Tzu has an important place and doesn't deserve all this scoffing.
I have read Sun Tzu and my takeaway is that he wanted to wipe away overconfidence, or the idea that conflict is decided simply by who wants to win more. It's a repeated message of "no, conflict is a risk you're taking and you have to think about it." The entire book is him constantly saying that fighting a war is difficult, you need to take literally every advantage you can get, and you should only fight if you have to or if you vastly outnumber your opponent. Also, run away when you have to and do boring logistics stuff like make sure the horses have water and everyone's getting paid. That's my impression for why business guys like it so much, because their gut instinct is that they're the hottest shit on Earth and don't need to think about how to do anything. They look at Sun Tzu's advice, which is often just "think about doing things before you do it, because you could fail and that would suck" and to them it's a massive revelation because they've never once considered a negative outcome was possible.
I can't really speak to the cult of business self help, I just find the Art of War a useful manual.
do boring logistics stuff like make sure the horses have water and everyone's getting paid.
Once I joined a march in the middle of July. Somewhere between 80-100 degrees, in the sun, miles of marching. I had a big water bladder and snacks and first aid and shit, because I read Sun Tzu and Sun Tzu says you need to pay attention to water. All the libs I was marching with? Totally unprepared for a long march in the July sun. A couple of miles in we had to stop at a gas station and absolutely clean it out of water, like we were all emptying our wallets to buy as much water as they had for people. At that point a call was made to turn around before people started collapsing. Shameful, total logistical failure. Adequate water is the most basic thing, and the libs didn't even consider it.
Next march I went to, I brought a wagon with like 20 gallons of water, plus a big bag of WHO oral rehydration mixture for people to add to their water if they wanted. Folks emptied me out before we'd gone two miles.
Sun Tzu is important!
The version I have on my shelf is "The Seven Military Classics of Ancient China" translated by Ralph D. Sawyer, but I can't tell you if it's an especially good translation.
So why do you figure do so many businesses suck at logistics or the nearest company equivalent if you're not actually in the business of physical things, like process management?
Because they all think they're a super special exemption to the rule and it doesn't apply to them because of how smart and cool they are.
If Sun Tzu was such goofy common sense the FBI would not have infiltrated all these orgs or catch hackers with poor opsec. It’s only obvious because I’m reading it while taking a shit in an air conditioned bathroom. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.
Y'all massively overestimate how much the average person understands about conflict and struggle. Sun Tzu has an important place and doesn't deserve all this scoffing.
People think they're too good for The Art of War and then go on to do shit that The Art of War specifically tells you not to do. And people in general need to read up on how to wage war, whether it's guerilla warfare or counterinsurgency or even just conventional warfare. Like, how can you shout "no war the but class war" without a general understanding of what war actually means? How can you even entertain fantasies of waging revolutionary warfare without even reading a single book on how to wage war?
It's also really easy to look at the advice and consider it obvious when you're sitting at home reading it with plenty of time on your hands. It's less obvious when you're in a stressful real world situation.
The stuff that soldiers get taught in basic training also feels really obvious. "Stay physically fit. Be aware of your surroundings. Only point guns at what you want to kill. Follow orders quickly." None of this should feel surprising to anyone with the most basic knowledge of what a soldier does, but drilling it in until it's what you do automatically in the moment is important.
Dang, good point, never thought of the armchair stress-free aspect before.
That's one of my major takeaways from BJJ after over a decade: competition separates what you know and what you think you know. What you actually know and what you'll actually do is a really short and simple list compared to the multitudes of knowledge and trivia you'll see and collect like trading cards. I was practicing going from ashi garami to a heel hook for a year before going to a competition that allowed it and the moment I saw an opening for it I messed it up bigly and let a person I was frankly more athletic than win.
Same, but with combat LARPing. The difference between sparring in a park and a real brawl at an event with hundreds of people on the field is striking.
It's important, because in stressful situations, most do not rise to the occasion, but rather fall back on their training. So drilling in the basics during training plays a very important role. It also applies to competitive sports as well.
Absolutely. As silly as it sounds, the couple of times I ended up in the middle of a firefight, i was able to function because I had a thousand hours in ARMA, combat LARPs, shit like that - Go for cover, direct civilians away from the fighting, shit like that. Didn't have to think about it, just fell back on what I'd done in sim games thousands of times.
Going for cover is another great one. "Try to hide behind things so you don't get shot" seems painfully obvious but in real life you can see how often civilians just freeze up instead.
Omg, i'm playing lots of helldivers rn and people absolutely will not use the simplest tactics! "The shield backpack is essential and you should kick anyone who doesn't bring it" meanwhile i have used the clausewitz level strategy of lying down to avoid enemy fire
Clausewitz' On War often frustrates me with how dense and wordy it is, but if nothing else, I think it's made him considerably less likely to be coopted by dipshits than poor Sun Tzu.
"war is politics by other means, dumbass" doesn't ring as true as "don't attack uphill, idiot"
The Prince is basically the same. It's basically just "please just fuck with other nobles, and when you lock them up and steal their shit go and give it to the public or something, and don't fuck with the common people" and "it's ok that you're a huge dumbass, just please hire someone who's not and then let them do all the real work while you go camping and play soldier in the woods, also pack a lunch."
Machiavelli gets such a bad rap as an evil man, and I really think it's just people who don't understand politics balking at how cruel and nasty politics is.
My own theory is that it's because Machiavelli himself was a radical republican who was necessarily opposed to what the ruling class thought was polite, and The Prince is basically a blunt treatise on ruling class politicking and strategy without all the pretty lies about nobility or w/e that none of them ever really followed but liked to pretend they did. Not to mention it encourages things that are outright dangerous to an aristocratic system, like emphasizing that noble-on-noble conflict should be brutal and taken all the way to completion instead of treated with decorum and mercy.
Then liberals followed suit after liberalism subsumed the old aristocratic order into itself, so Machiavelli is the bad evil scheme man instead of the for-his-time-radical liberal who disrespected the old aristocratic system's norms.
Like I feel that the modern equivalent of The Prince would be if a communist agreed to write a guidebook for the Waltons in exchange for being allowed to return home to the Walmart corpo-fief, and it said they should be resolving their conflict with the Kingdom of the Mouse with PMCs and assassinations instead of the Corporate Court, and they shouldn't stop till all the Mouse's shareholders are dead, then they should give all of Disney's capital to the citizenry to buy their loyalty. Liberals would fucking hate that because it's so uncivil and gives the lie to their idea of a peaceful rules-based order.
I did write a thematically similar short story framed as a news bot interviewing two brothers on opposite sides of a permanent trench war between the remnants of Florida and the Disney corpo-state.
like emphasizing that noble-on-noble conflict should be brutal and taken all the way to completion instead of treated with decorum and mercy.
He would’ve loved WWI
Lenin's reaction to WWI was basically "I can't believe they are giving us this gift".
Yeah I always heard that The Prince was really just descriptive, not an endorsement of evil shit
Let's be fair, Machiavelli was a total edgelord about in some aspects of the text.
Machiavelli explicitly said "use the least amount of tyranny possible" while for some reasons popculture pass this as "use the most tyranny as possible" if not straighforward "MUAHAHAHA bring the horses and rope"
Right? Given how politics worked at the time - Gangs of partisans killing each other with swords in the streets, mercenary captains changing teams mid battle, brutal warfare with North Africa and, well, everyone else. It's got to be placed within the context of the brutality of it's time, and the development of political theory.
I've always really stuck to the always seek to be feared, be loved if you can, but take care not to be hated because people who fear you will obey, people who love you will endure hardships, but people who hate you will destroy themselves to destroy you. Always made a lot of sense to me.
Also, "if you build your army mostly from hired mercenaries, don't be surprised when your enemy hires them out from under you".
- Every client is one missed payment away from becoming a target [41] and every target is one bribe away from becoming a client.
From the 70 Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercenaries.
All warfare is based on deception
This book is very popular in the business community
and people wonder why things are so shit.The main reason econ and poli sci majors are so obsessed with Sun Tzu and especially Macchiavelli is that the actual good sources on realpolitik are Mao and Lenin and that's considered too dangerous for them, so they get the safe stuff, the utterly nihilistic and immoral Borghia bootlicker and the "archers are kinda good for killing at a distance" drivel instead of having State and Revolution on their reading list.
You cannot stand here slandering my boy Sun Tzu like this. The Art of War is good and explains core concepts around engaging in and managing conflict. It lays out the basics so you have a foundation to build off of. It might seem obvious to you, but most people have absolutely no idea when or why to fight and Sun Tzu explains it.
For examples, just look at your average armchair general who got their experience from video games! This stuff does not come naturally to people.
Yeah people gotta remember Sun Tzu in the BCs when dudes were fighting with swords and spears and arrows lol. It’s one of the first texts on military strategy - or conflict management if you wanna be that guy.
It’s like criticizing someone for writing that lifting heavy objects strategically give you muscles during a period where Jesus was his neighbor.
They say that the best capitalists are the ones that have read Lenin and Marx.
There's no correct reason, there are value judgments that are made from the information gleaned from dialectical and historical materialism.
Compare the CPC's stewardship of the Chinese economy to literally any Western country where they haven't read them.
I keep seeing Conservative strategy in the frame of vanguard tactics learned from Lenin and it pisses me off; because it is obviously working so well for them, but one also has to look at the fact they are just so loaded and well-funded.
The funniest one I've seen has to be that one book, what is it "48 Laws of Power" or something? That's just packed with translated old Arabic poetry and ends by praising Mao and calling people who think they can learn leadership from a book dumbasses. IIRC the forward is something like "so yeah this book is mostly based on the bullshit that I've seen the worst people I've ever known do, plus some literature I think is cool," too.
Mike Tyson read Mao in prison and it changed his life so much that he got a tattoo of him lol. Too bad he’s a piece of shit otherwise it’d be funny to point this out.
The founder of BuzzFeed was a Maoist in college. Or at the very least, he read Mao and somehow influenced him to create BuzzFeed.
Jameson and Delueze
Capitalism and schizophrenia
Peretti's article is an interpretation of Jameson's "Postmodernism and Consumer Society" and Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia, both of which use "schizophrenia" as a key part of their analysis.
"Schizophrenia" here doesn't have much of anything to do with the actual mental illness (as Jameson writes, "I'm not even sure that the view of schizophrenia I'm about to outline … is clinically accurate"), and in retrospect the use of an actual illness from which millions of people suffer as an abstract tool of cultural criticism is rather cringe-inducing. I use the term here since it's the preferred jargon within cultural theory, but, for the record, it's gross and they should have found another word.
In context of the theory, both Jameson and Deleuze/Guattari use "schizophrenic" to refer to a person without a defined identity or ego. Jameson, for one, thinks "late" capitalism (which he said was beginning to emerge in the mid-1980s, as he was writing) causes that kind of schizophrenia. People usually build identities, after all, at least in part from cultural items (songs, movies, TV shows, advertisements, etc) they encounter. But Jameson thinks that if those items are presented in a scrambled, confusing way to people, they have a hard time forming identities, and run the risk of schizophrenia.
https://www.vox.com/2014/5/20/5730762/buzzfeeds-founder-used-to-write-marxist-theory-and-it-explains
All the better.
How does that saying go - never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake?
Plenty of these poli sci majors are going to be opposed to the revolution, if not most of them. I can't imagine many econ majors are going to make it through liberal ideology ✨but reified with statistics✨ and end up on the right side of history.
Let them study garbage and produce garbage takes and make a mess of everything. Paper tigers etc. etc.
Try and stand somewhere where the sun is in their eyes, instead of in your eyes
Not only have I used this, at one point I made a shield with a mirror on it so I could be that fucker and direct light in to people's eyes if I didn't have the sun. If you want to intimidate someone, for instance, put the sun in their eyes so they have to squint at you.
The whole "appear strong when you are weak, and weak when you are strong" nonsense is so easy to spot when people and companies apply it. Everyone can tell when someone is fronting and faking confidence, or faking being humble, nobody is fooled.
Other stuff from The Art of War is more useful though.
Jokes on you my adhd does this for me and it’s completely un-counterable because I genuinely get nothing from succeeding but anxiety and nothing from failure at all because I’ve done it so much.
Terrible take. People think they can tell when someone is bluffing or lying, mostly they cannot. As someone who does a lot of contract negotiations, who has to bluff all the time, and as someone who also does a lot of audits where I have to spot bluffing all the time I see it both ways. Most people are bad at spotting liars and bullshitters, however good news, most people are also absolutely terrible liars and bullshitters so you don’t need to be good, however this gives a false sense of security in your instincts, you are not Sherlock Holmes, you can’t sniff out a lie a mile away and if your opposite number is half way competent the only way to be really know is to do your homework and catch people out in hard data and in evidence. Me included, I’ve been fooled before and doubtless will be fooled again. It’s the nature of the beast. The only way you can reliably find truth is to know more about your opposite number than they do and to test every premise you can. Conversely the more you can control knowledge about your own position and obfuscate the more margin you have to present a position to your benefit. So long as you’re smart enough to understand what your opponent can know and can’t know it’s very easy to distort a picture.
Word. The importance of controlling information is a theme Sun Tzu hammers on again and again. You want to know as much as possible while doing everything in your power to actively deny your enemies any useful information.
Everyone can tell when someone is fronting and faking confidence, or faking being humble, nobody is fooled.
The folks who do it badly tend to stick out. But this is far more useful on the margins, where a firm's performance is genuinely not well-understood.
Companies understating/overstating their expected earnings to manipulate their stock price is a time-tested means of legalized insider trading. Firms, like Apple, used to do an exceptional job of sitting on products in development until the last moment, generating all sorts of ambient hype whether or not they had anything to brag about releasing. Warren Buffet's Berkshire Hathaway is a textbook case of "talk small and carry a big balance sheet" and routinely outperforms its competitors as a result.
Exploiting gaps between your perceived and actual value is functionally how value-investors make money. If nobody ever got fooled, equities would never value themselves different from the perfectly predicted book value.
During WWII all sides used decoy vehicles, supply depots, factories. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't.
During the age of sail warships would sometimes pretend to be civilian vessels to lure privateers in. When the privateers closed in the warship would run up it's colors, their national flag, and open fire at point-blank.
There's a standard method for an infantry unit retreating from an ambush - Instead of running straight away from the ambush you retreat at an angle from the ambush. Troops leapfrog past each other, firing back at the ambushing for. Since they're moving at an agle it sounds like more soldiers are joining the fight from the flank. The purpose is to deceive the ambushing forces in to thinking you've got more soldiers than you do so they don't pursue you.
There's a famous story from the Romance of the Three Kingdoms. Zhuge Liang is famous for being the smartest sonoremovedun in China. He routinely pulled off brilliant strategic and tactical victories, achieving stunning results effortlessly. Well, one time, he was supposed to defend a city, but his army was still two or three days away, marching hard to catch up with him. An enemy army was approaching the city and Zhuge Liang had basically no forces to defend with.
This absolute fucking madman opens the gates, then sits out from calmly playing guitar. When the enemy general gets word that Zhuge Liang is sitting outside with the gates wide open having a jam session he says "Okay fuck this. I don't want to deal with Zhuge Liang's bullshit today. let's go attack somewhere else" and they leave.
More than one prisoner has escaped prison using fake guns carved out of soap or whatever they had handy. Lots of people have used a finger, or a piece of pipe, or whatever to convince a bank teller they have a gun when they don't.
Cold Reading is a classic tactic in most cons and in interogations where you pretend to know more than you do, using carefully worded questions to convince the person you're interogating that you already know what's up, to convince them to talk about what's up, when you really don't know what's up.
The whole "appear strong when you are weak, and weak when you are strong" nonsense is so easy to spot
I mean look at Wirecard, that shit works out
"You'll do better if you know the capabilities of your army and the enemy's army before a fight."
It sounds simple, but look at Fascism. Their ideological framing of the enemy as both everywhere and all powerful, but also week and feeble, makes them incapable of assessing what's really happening.
Or that bit where it says - If you're surrounded, with no way out, you must fight? The liberals are begging anyone to save them from having to fight. They're up against a wall with no where to go except through the enemy, and they're preying to a senile, evil old man to save them.
It all sounds simple on the page, but then you look at how people actually behave.
The only thing I'd say about that is it seems like it's working out just fine for the fascists but like you said in your second point that wouldn't be possible if the libs opposing them didn't think that actually opposing them was a moral failure.
I meant the modern day fascists. There were fascists openly flying swastika flags at a state capitol this week.
At a certain point the contradictions become too much to overcome and they have to face reality but the entirety of American society is working hard to make sure people don't see those contradictions.
Unfortunately there isn't a far superior communist country forcing us to address those contradictions like in historical examples.
How is it working "just fine" for fascists? Fascists consistently fail to win wars and achieve their goals in a lasting way because they are ideologically limited from accurately assessing the strength of themselves and their enemies.
Consider how Ukraine, a fascist country that receives massive material support cannot defeat Russia, a country that receives no material support and has an economy the size of Italy.
Consider how Israel, a fascist country that receives massive material support has failed for over 80 years to achieve its long term goals of normalizing its relations with its neighbors and to eradicate the Palestinians.
These two fascist states are strong on paper but weak in reality. Their fascist ideology prohibits them from accurately assessing the strength of themselves and their enemies, and this leads them to act as if they are in a position of strength even when they are in a position of weakness.
Russia, a country that (...) has an economy the size of Italy
Not engaging in the rest of this debate, but this is misleading. If you just look at GDP, that's true, but if you look at GDP PPP (purchasing power parity), it's the §th economy of the world, right after Germany. PPP means that you don't just translate roebels into dollars, but that you check what you can actually buy with it.
Again I'm talking about the current wave of fascism in America.
How is it working "just fine" for fascists?
They are constantly doing whatever they want and the strongest opposition is democrats saying they can't do that, then the fascists tell them to suck they're balls and the dems shrug and say "aw shucks fine"
They control 2/3rds of the federal government while the other 1/3rd lectures us about how they can't do anything about it.
A bunch of them flew swastika flags over a state capital with no reourcussions last week.
A state just outlawed ivf because Jesus said that frozen embryos are humans.
We just vetoed a resolution to stop doing a genocide.
The presidential election is between a proud self avowed fascists and a meek self ashamed fascist.
And waiting for the fascists to defeat themselves when the contradictions become untenable has been the dems strategy for at least 2 decades at this point.
How are they not?
I really hate people like you who point to a few fascist victories and then proclaim that communism is over and that the future of mankind is eternal face-stomping under the fascist boot.
All Fascist Victories Are Temporary.
I don't give a shit about your thousand-week Reich. It will not last. Fascist victories do not last.
Abortion is banned - this will not last.
Israel still exists - this will not last.
Just because you are on your back foot doesn't mean that you have lost the fight. You are like those people who abandoned communism and became fucking liberals after the fall of the USSR.
A few idiots waving swastikas at the American capitol doesn't mean that communism is over. Tens of millions of Germans waved swastikas a century ago, and Hitler lost.
Fascist victories do not last.
A man falling off a cliff isn't "doing fine" as long as he hasn't hit the ground yet. He has stopped doing fine as soon as he stepped off the cliff.
I can't help but be stunned when you confidently proclaimed that fascism has won just because a few idiots waved flags at the American capitol. It's fucking over guys. Some idiots waved some swastikas. It's fucking over.
As a side note, I really hate when Americans (you) use "we" when referring to Americans. Who is we? I am not American. The rest of the world exists; most of the world is not America.
Seriously, the imperialists are paper tigers. Your oppressors aren't infallible. The Algerian war of independence expelled and killed all the French settlers. Soon, the same will happen to Israel. Half a million Israeli settlers have already fled the country. Fascist victories are temporary.
“We” is fine sometimes as in “I speak for the people of my country when I say” but this user’s use is strange. “We” did not vetoe it, the state did.
Hey congratulations you continuously insisting that the rising fascism in the america isn't anything to worry about puts you in ideological lockstep with the liberals.
It's just I've watched them be wrong about literally everything for my entire life and haven't really seen any evidence that's suddenly going to change for no reason.
Maybe if you aren't from America don't get so bent out of shape when somebody who is from there say that yes, the completely unopposed ascendancy of fascism in the countrybwith the world's biggest military is no big deal.
Tell that to the 15000 dead Palestinian children that 80% of this country agrees deserved it.
Tell that to the 15000 dead Palestinian children that 80% of this country agrees deserved it.
You need to cite sources. Everything I have seen says that support for Israel has never been lower.
Palestine will win regardless of whether America supports it or not.
Yea before now it was at about 98% so your right it never has been higher.
Ok I guess everything's great and Palestine is doing just fine thanks for the education lesson.
Edit: looked it up it's "only" 70% not 80% that think we're either doing the right amount or not enough to fund Isreals genocide
https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx
Where are your sources? Everything I've seen says that support for Israel has never been lower. The young people are appalled at Israel's genocide. It is now normal and mainstream to speak out against Israel and its genocide.
Just linked it.
Gallup polling says 70% of Americans think we're doing the right amount or not enough.
And of those that think we're doing too much it's all liberals who are going to vote for Biden regardless or the literal fascists you keep telling me not to worry about.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx
Gallup polling says 70% of Americans think we're doing the right amount or not enough.
literally the fucking headline: "Americans Back Israel's Military Action in Gaza by 50% to 45%"
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Half of Americans approve of Israel’s military action in the Hamas-led Gaza Strip, and 45% disapprove, according to a Gallup poll conducted several weeks after Hamas launched a deadly attack on Israel that led to a major military operation by Israel.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/545045/americans-back-israel-military-action-gaza.aspx
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Maybe try reading more than the first paragraph.
"The largest segment of Americans, 42%, say the U.S. is providing about the right amount of military aid to Israel, and another 25% say the U.S. is not doing enough, totaling 67% who endorse at least the current level of military aid to Israel."
It doesn't really matter if they say they oppose it in one question if in the next question of "should we reduce funding" 70% say no.
Am I really going to have to explain why material actions are more important than empty political platitudes to a proclaimed communist?
"I don't support what Isreal is doing but we should keep giving them the same amount or more funding and support" actually worked on you?
You must be so fucking stoked when liberals tell you they'd love to do something but there's nothing they can do huh.
Gonna break it off here since you're literally arguing that words are more important than actions.
I just took a poll and 100% of respondants agreed I was right so check and mate I guess since opinions are more important than what actually happens.
I think you've lost the plot. What were you trying to argue again?
I don't understand how any of this is relevant to whether fascists are "doing fine" or not. If you don't believe communism will win, why do you even bother being a communist?
Also, I don't get how, even assuming that Americans are 102% in support of Israel (which they are not), this means that it's over for Palestine. The fate of the Palestinians will not be determined by popular opinion of Americans. The Palestinians themselves will determine their own fate.
I don't care about what random fucking Americans think. They do not determine the fate of the world.
Communism will win. Palestine will win. Israel will fall, regardless of how much Americans love it.
Libs are the ones saying the only thing that matters in the world is trump being bad who fits their definition of fascist. In reality liberalism isn't that far from fascism, so it's not a big deal the difference between the parties and idealogies.
'How to Not Be a Dumbass: A Guide for Fail Sons' by Sun Tsu
Audio book narrated by Kurtwood Smith
The ancient version of "PROTIP: To defeat the Cyberdemon, shoot at it until it dies."
: how do I get into silver rank?
: throw games until you fall out of gold
i mean that comprises the whole genre, really, even the modern military manuals are for idiot boots & their nepo officers
There are interesting cultural differences between the manuals that crop up, though. Like during the Cold War, American manuals for low level officers really emphasized understanding the concepts of combined arms warfare and applying them dynamically to evolving situations, while the Soviet manuals were more like a flowchart - enemy has you out-ranged? Get closer. Enemy has fortified the city? Go around. Stuff like that.
Many modern translations of the Art of War are misappropriated and forcefully applied to business or politics.
Sun Tzu was a Taoist, who believed in simplicity, spontaneity, equilibrium, and so forth. He believed in flowing effortlessly like water finding is level and weathering a stronger enemy.
His writing exemplified a philosophy and a spirit of living as he applied them to war.
It took me almost 20 years to understand that he was explaining why it was called a tzu, or zoo.
touches
