https://nitter.net/KateIswell/status/1516795389017427969?t=S8b6ae6XX6u_sXXAHFQeKw&s=19
It must be cool to be a conservative and spend exactly half your time about college students being too sheltered from the real world because of all the damn censorship and the other half of your time about college students being exposed to something you don’t like in a critical manner.
The concept of university "exposing" students to hardcore porn is so moronic.
Literally every curious 14-year-old has immediate access to infinite hardcore/fetish porn at their fingertips 24/7.
If your grownass college student child is interested in hardcore pornography, they can literally just take out their phone, it takes less than a minute.
It must be nice to be a conservative period.
They won the culture war, so they wake up every goddamn day getting a blowjob from the internet. IRL is also a never-ending circlejerk for them. Fox News, OAN, Breitbart, and stormfront are the "normal" people news, and fucking CNN is seen as fringe media for dangerous subversives doing wrongthink. Most people you run into are far-right, and being to the left of Hitler makes you socially isolated.
I think we should analyse porn, also college kids are old enough who caree. the biggest issue is the sex pest freaks are also gonna take that class
Volcel police stationed in the corner with a spray bottle in every class
if anybody is not absolutely disgusted by the exploitation of the sex workers on screen at all times, 150ccs of ice water to the face
I volunteer to spray people in the face with cold water everytime they show a hint of arousal.
I'm glad you're so willing to engage with horny people. If the Volcel Police are recruiting, you should join.
🚫Horny jail
✅ Community-based Horny support and rehabilitation resources + full legalization of Horny
It's exactly this type of controversial stuff that justifies the existence of tenure. It's an interesting topic to analyze and discuss, but the administration is jumpy and would probably discipline or fire a non-tenured professor if they came out with this course.
This probably has enough pre reqs that only film majors would take it.
On the other hand one of the pre-reqs for being a film major is being a sex pest freak.
It's also in Salt Lake City, so it's Mormon sex pests at that
I think they'll get filtered out early. If I was the professor, I'd just have gay porn on the first day and break down the fucked up shit there.
It's what I did, and those puritans never let me teach calculus again.
idk. I think it's useful to see how racial fetishes/stereotypes come into play if you're discussing that (negative) part of the industry, for example. seeing a white actress scream the n-word in a mainstream porn video probably has a different impact than reading what I just wrote, for example. or seeing how emotions and relationships are portrayed on screen. or even just seeing what acting actually looks like in a multi billion dollar industry. seeing what aspects are faked and how.
Took a cinema class once about 10 yrs ago. Most of it was "highbrow exploitation" as the prof put it - stuff like "Demonlover" from france or "Bad Education" from GOAT Almodovar.
However, we did two weeks where we basically did 70's porn - watched Deepthroat and then also an arty film where a guy jerks it to some gay porn from the 80's maybe? I think it might have been called k-y-p or something like that? I can't remember, sadly.
Granted, we also had some total bangers early on - "Man with a Movie Camera," "Germany Year 0," "Breathless." and "Peeping Tom." For a class on "Spectatorship", though, you eventually have to deal with porn.
If you're analyzing the viewer (rather than the text) then sometimes porn can be an object of analysis.
just reading synopses is fine if your goal is moral indignation, but serious criticism requires engagement with the text. whether it's "artsy" or "nuanced" is irrelevant.
the biggest issue is the sex pest freaks are also gonna take that class
As long as the professor is prepared to deal with them that's probably a good thing
The sex pests all drop when they realize that the class is 5 mins of watching a porn clip and 85 mins of talking about patriarchy and cishet sexual norms.
Honestly, I think challenging a straight guy on his porn opinions in the classroom might actually do some good for everybody.
(Pointing to a voluntary course available exclusively for adults)
HELP THEYRE FORCIBLY INDOCTRINATING MY CHILDREN
Not only that but this is a relatively high level film course so the prerequisites are going to prevent just anybody from going
I dunno how those classes work in the US, but is there anything stopping people from attending? Like, I can't enroll in neurobiology classes at my uni but there's nothing stopping me from just showing up, listening and even participating. I just won't get credit for it.
I don't think this is a big deal at all but the thought of just walking into a hardcore pornography class because lmao is kinda funny.
I don’t think this is a big deal at all
frankly the students who are registered don't turn up let alone one's who aren't
Probably given the subject matter, the instructor might have a requirement to fill out some paperwork before hand.
Depends on the class. If you sit down in a big lecture hall I really doubt anyone would notice, maybe a TA. Smaller, high level courses tend to be a bit more tight knit so it probably won't work there.
Depends on the class and the school. At my college, if you didn't have a school badge on, you were asked to leave. When I was in community college, nobody gave a shit who you were or where you were
Should have screened "Call Me By Your Name" because the gay sex is hotter.
So you can voluntarily sign up for the class as an adult. Nobody is forcing you to do it. Why are conservatives whining again? This is perfectly fine with their ideology isn't it?
Moral puritanism. Unironically a class like this might get less people to actually watch porn (isn't that what the conservatives want?) once they realise how messed up a lot of it is. (That's assuming the people that sign up for the class are not a bunch of creeps though).
yeah but they might stop for reasons involving the sex industry's mind-boggling violence aginst women and links to human trafficking.
Chuds want people to stop for reasons to do with insane theories about vital essences they stole from dr Srangelove
Chuds want people to stop for reasons to do with insane theories about vital essences they stole from dr Srangelove
Lmao
Signs up for porn class: :sicko-yes::yes-hahaha-yes-l:
It's all feminist critique and in-depth study into an industry comprised entirely of exploitation: :sicko-no:
It’s all feminist critique and in-depth study into an industry comprised entirely of exploitation:
:sicko-fem: :yes-hahaha-yes-l:
It seems like an interesting thing to think about and critique, but I'm amazed the professor got away with actually showing porn in class. Must be tenured, lol.
I had a 19th century lit class where we looked at porn comics and erotic lit, and it was a newer professor, so maybe it depends on the school too
I think it's like one of those things where you have to prove the academic merit
For a history course focused on East Asia during industrialization, my professor assigned this Japanese short novel that was clearly just softcore femdom erotica and telling us it was about social change or whatever. Wish I remembered the title.
The only book I'm familiar with that was similar to what you described was The Pillow Book (枕草子, Makura no Sōshi) by lady Sei Shōnagon from the Heian period, but that's waaaaay before the industrialist post-Tokugawa period
Yeah this was definitely more modern era, the main character was an early salaryman. Also, written by a lame horny guy, not a presumably based domme lady.
Some Prefer Nettles?
Edit: Or perhaps something else by Tanizaki
Had a prof in a 101 history of film class screen the deepthroat scene from Deepthroat. A few months later I heard him being interviewed on the local public radio station about his book about the movie Caligula. This was circa 2009.
When viewed from a Marxist class-based analytical lens, we can see that there's a lot to unpack in the film Lemon Stealing Whores.
This is a 300 level course, anyone taking this will be at least 20
this class would fucking rock. academically/just-not-grossly talking about porn is something i've really wanted to do but who can you do that with?
between watching the stuff, internet rumors, and behind the scenes journalism i've sopped up over the years, there is a lot there to explore. throw in some (several waves) feminist reading material, find some primary sources from the industry...
more mundane stuff like that (1) meme about where the cinematic language of porn is very different (equating the loss of garments to 'plot points'). as film its fascinating.
If you made an effort post about it, I'd definitely read it. I know its very much a not good industry, but I'm not as well read on it as you.
im not close to literate or experienced enough to write about it with any authority lol, i just know i'd like to know more!
academically/just-not-grossly talking about porn is something i’ve really wanted to do but who can you do that with?
throw in some (several waves) feminist reading material, find some primary sources from the industry…
Doing that (researching all of that) is one of the main reasons I don't watch porn anymore.
I would unironically be interested in analysing how yaois (South Korean especially for some reason) will rapidly switch between showing cutesy bottom things and having extremely rapey undertones (and frequently overtones too) and how it justifies the rape themes within the contexts of the story
South Korean? As I understand it porn is kinda illegal there.
As I understand it, that's exactly why extremely problematic porn is prevalent in Occupied Korea. If it's illegal anyway, why not go all out?
Someone should make a university course studying this I guess.
Hmm, we may be watching different films for different reasons.
conservative anti-intellectualism is laughably stupid, but lets also not pretend that bourgeois academia isn't trash
Of all the things at university to criticize, a film class that discusses pornography with a focus on its influence across class and cultural lines is way down near the bottom.
This isn't even anti-intellectual conservatism. This is just some terminally online harpy screeching in fury when academia acknowledges that porn exists.
Actually sounds like a good class though, pornography has wide ranging consequences for society and social interactions
Yeah. After reading David Graeber's bullshit jobs, there's a whole bunch of classes like this where I think they are better taught at a rec center or something.
I would love to see the syllabus for that class. Specifically the “No masterbating” rule lol
i mean getting into technicals of anything can make it unerotic
