https://twitter.com/scottjshapiro/status/1523320041692823555?t=TC3YB5ZggJE_Gim6t7ELHg&s=19

How many times have their ideas about the "necessity of protocol" and "not giving the right an excuse to escalate" been disproven by the right constantly escalating no matter how good the liberals behave? And yet every time they fall back to the same idiotic dogma about not escalating because "oh no what will the right wingers do???". Pathetic

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    That way lies madness and violence

    Absolute briefcase wanker level of talking.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The best thing is that the Founding Fathers literally just shot minor tax officials during the Revolution, along with pretty much anyone else they deemed treasonous. But the Constitution is a holy document and we have to respect it.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      You say everything under heaven will be in chaos? Excellent!

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    "So you can show your displeasure, just not in a way that might result in any positive material change"

    "Oh and stay in the police marked protest zone"

    • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      “Oh and stay in the police marked protest zone”

      this rhetoric is the biggest bullshit because it allows the fascist pigs to corral you into a place where they can do unspeakable violence on you even if you don't resist. like, what? And then afterwards they'll just say that you "refused to move" from the designated zone. So they still get to dictate the terms of when your protest starts and ends.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Cops on one side telling you to go north, Cops on the other side telling you to go south, and cops to the east waiting to gas everyone with chemical weapons, arrest them, and turn them over to the prosecutors who will argue for 20 year sentences because an alleged mailbox allegedly caught fire somewhere in the vicinity.

        • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          i'll never forget that footage of people being chased around an entire block by a riot pig in 2020. No matter which way they went he was following them, yelling at them to leave, actively hindering their retreat with violence

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Minneapolis, where lib protest leaders herded six hundred people on to the highway then let police surround them, keep them kettled for hours, and then arrest all of them. Elderly people, infirm people, disabled people, little kids. It was fucking shameful and I think people are either still facing charges or the charges have just begun to be dropped two years later.

    • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Its not even like the protesters actually threatened Kavanaugh or could actually scare him into changing his vote. They're just out there standing outside his house yelling at him. Libs act like mildly inconveniencing the tyrants on the SCOTUS is exactly the same as dragging them from their homes and executing them in the street.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        dragging them from their homes and executing them in the street.

        Which to be very clear, would be objectively the moral, correct thing to do. The 6 that voted to overturn should already be hanging from fucking lampposts.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          This is exactly the kind of government over reach and tyranny that the American National Myth is opposed to. The "Founding Fathers" killed many people for less than this.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I would blow this guys mind if I told him the Supreme Court is one of the main obstacles to progress, by design, and I'd be fine with 0 supreme court Justices.

    These people have a straight up Daniel and the Lions complex. Like they think if they're just peaceful enough and take enough beatings Jesus will descend from Heaven and be like "Your reward for suffering is mild social reforms".

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      I disagree with Nietzsche on a lot of stuff, but slave morality is unfortunately the perfect description of how US Democrats view politics. The purest Christian martyr complex at work, especially if somebody else than these hyperprivileged ghouls gets martyred for the causes they performatively put in their twitter bio.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I need to read Nietzsche. I want to try to find an edition of his books that wasn't edited by his Nazi sister.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "That way lies madness and violence."

    That :LIB: fuck must have felt so profound and Shakespearean when he wrote it that way.

    The sorry-not-sorry at the end is pure :reddit-logo: too.

    • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I'm several decades old and they have not gotten anything done

      They won't get anything done

      They cannot get anything done

      • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        hey now, they do actually get some stuff done. like means tested grants to small business owners

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They get a lot done but it's all immiserating the poor and murdering brown people and getting rich on insider trading.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Liberals are weird in that they always talk about peaceful resolutions and following protocols, but become very violent and hateful when it's anything foreign policy related.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I dunno about you but stripping 50% of the population of a whole buncha states of a say in what happens to their bodies sure sounds like chaos and violence to me.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Texas is literally going to murder people for having abortions, but libs are still posting bullshit about "How we can reduce the number of abortions" as though any Evangelical on the planet gives a fuck.

      • Circra [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah that's ridiculous. The people banning it will only be happy if abortion is totally illegal in all circumstances. It trully is amazing how many concessions liberals will make to the far right and how few they will make to mildly left wing social democrat policies.

        • mars [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          And after abortion is illegal, it'll be birth control's turn. Not saying it will happen, but abortion has always been the tip of the iceberg for these people.

          • CrimsonDynamo [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I always thought this line of thinking was lib shit because of the Kayfabe aspect to our government, and how it wouldn't behoove either party to outright ban anything so controversial,

            But after the last week, it turns out that they straight up are going to make a play for it.

            Between this, and the bad guess that Russia wouldn't invade Ukraine, leftists have taken a couple of licks.

            • mars [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah same, I assumed SCOTUS wouldn't want to blow their legitimacy on what is to them a useful wedge issue. But yeah looks like they're fucking true believers, or something.

          • Circra [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yup. It's quite straightforward. You just have to recognise that as far as women are concerned they want women to be barefoot and pregnant submissive housewives and work back from there. Anything they can push to get to that state, they always will.

            • mars [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              The conservatives I know don't admit it, and the liberals won't really believe it till it happens. Here's to hoping, uh, yeah actually don't even know what to hope for lol

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Translate: don’t apply pressure at where it hurts! What if it brings out results?!

    Or: don’t fight! What if the other side fights back?! If we preemptively surrender there’s no way they will fight us!!

  • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Everything should only be judged by means, not ends. "What if pro-life people were making pro-choice people uncomfortable, surely you wouldn't be in favor of that!"

    • ScotPilgrimVsTheLibs [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      That's the thing. Just for not being conservative, I'll get called every name in the book on a daily basis and it infuriates me SCOTUS hasn't passed the "cruisin' for a bruisin'" clause, let alone smack someone from across cyberspace.

      What do I have to lose? Sometimes it takes a douchebag to deal with an asshole.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        "Fighting Words" used to be a thing but it's been construed so narrowly by the courts that it's basically meaningless. Nazis can march through Jewish neighborhoods but unless you say "I am going to murder this specific Jew right now" it's not criminal and you can't using fighting words as a defense against braining them with a bat.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words

  • CommCat [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    these libs lead comfortable middle class lifestyles, these issues rarely affect them personally, so they like to keep things polite to maintain stability and their way of life. If something does actually threaten to affect their comfortable middle class lifestyle, you know the old saying about scratching a liberal...

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The time would be easy to know, for then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.

      • Some fucking centrist, probably.
  • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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    2 years ago

    If Sotomayer isn't living in an armored compound with snake pits and gas traps in the entrance corridors, the libs are doing it wrong

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      She's in the minority and functionally powerless. What does this asshole think a right wing protestor would accomplish by cancelling her?