Why you should purge Vaushites and fake “anarchists” immediately, as shown in two pictures.

Late link cause :LIB:

  • panopticon [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Lol, Nakoichi holding it down:

    You don't get to dictate what is or isn't left you dorknob. Try doing any of this shitflinging during rl organizing and you would be ejected. You vaush people are fucking insufferable and not just on the internet.

    I feel like I'd enjoy meeting a lot of the people on here irl.

  • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Vaushites calling everyone else fascists while idolizing a dude that parrots white supremacist talking points between ramblings on how hot it is to fuck children is really something to behold. I enjoy throwing in that I can see why people like Woody Allen still enjoy a fanbase.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The poster in particular is an "anarchist" who posts on tankiejerk because of course. Naturally, they are functionally indistinct.

    • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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      2 years ago

      Woody Allen at least made funny movies sometimes, and there's enough room for doubt (it's icky no matter how you look at it but not worse than your average celebrity). I can't see the amusement one could get from voosh.

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I'm fortunately old enough that I don't really get the appeal of streamers for the most part, or at least don't feel the need to form parasocial relationships with them. I think a lot of it is people tying up their self worth with the content they consume and any denunciation of that content is seen as a personal attack on them.

        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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          2 years ago

          But like, I enjoy streamers, I just don't get how seeing that ham screaming misunderstood Wikipedia articles is fun.

    • DJMSilver [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      meh, the woody allen thing was likely slander https://youtu.be/muyaCg2dGAk this video does a good job detailing it.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Vaush is going the path of Destiny and becoming increasingly conservative the more I hear from him. Makes sense that the only clips of people watching Vaush irl were a policeman and US troops.

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Imo he's been plying his cult to announce he's now an out of the closet libertarian for a year or two. They absolutely love him dragging actual leftists and will write up 5000 word essays about why constantly talking over a black woman trying to discuss desegregation with "So you want to murder all the white people?" is actually cool and good.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            2 years ago

            He'll deliberately convolute libertarian and anarchist to fuck with people if that happens.

            If he says he's libertarian the age of consent memes will be off the charts.

            • DiapsoraFan555 [none/use name,they/them]
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              2 years ago

              The “communism” that he advocates for is already just capitalism, but with worker coops and a smaller state. He would deny that, but when he talks about what he’s in favor of, that’s what he talks about

    • PZK [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I had a friend (now-ex friend) that was a leftist then fell down the Vaush hole and turning into a raving liberal. His politics became completely asinine, and he constantly made it personal because he was indoctrinated to.

      It doesn't shock me at all that Vaush is unmasking slowly because I knew he was at best a liberal from the start. He hijacked the popular rise of leftism during the Trump years and convinced his base that by being staunch libs they were the real progressives because they "win". He also is going to follow the route of Destiny because that is simply what he is financially railroaded into.

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      To me this honestly feels like the best path for him and his fanbase. Their ideology is pure spite and we clearly can't deprogram Vaush himself (I doubt anybody could), so ideally his followers will just gradually get more and more ideologically deranged until they finally refuse to call themselves "leftists" anymore and we no longer have to argue over whether or not they're "allies." Sure, the right/libs will just absorb them instead, but they've proven they're useless at anything other than intentionally provoking people so i doubt it'd help them. I'd rather they be mocking from the sidelines than actually organizing and sabotaging movements from the inside.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        They'll just move on to becoming neoliberals who talk about how they were radicals in their youth before facing reality or something like that.

  • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    When Robert Conquest isn't anti-communist enough for you so you just go with vibes

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      More and more lately I've been thinking about the purges and the so-called anarchists, and frankly I think I'm starting to understand what kind of "anarchists" were either excluded from the political process or even imprisoned were probably like the 1910s version of vaushites.

      I'm sure this is wrong in many ways but you know, first as tragedy second as farce.

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I personally don't really know, though I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mix and the fake shitty anarchists often ruined things for the cool real ones. That's kinda how it works today anyways.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah I know the broader strokes of the conflicts and ideological disagreements but I've never really looked much into the finer details. Just a thing I thought about recently.

      • NomadicWarMachine [any]
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        2 years ago

        Lol, NGL dude this comes off as an attempt to skirt the anti-sectarianism rule.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Sure I can see how that might come off that way but it's a legitimate thing I have thought about recently and so I brought it up.

          Not like there's anywhere else I could say something like that without just pissing everyone off. It's not an indictment of anarchists in general nor is it an excuse for their treatment by the soviets I was really just thinking aloud.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Expressing their unexamined alienation by identifying with a cartoon alien that initially became known outside of the site by the "free speech" trophy awarded to the /r/JailBait head mod. :zizek-fuck:

  • swiggityswoosh [any]
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    2 years ago

    Political compass discourse has always been cursed, I blame jreg.

  • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    the ussr had problems, mostly of complete incompetency in people in positions of power in the party from the top down from the ~1960s onward.

    Online anarchists comparing it to fascist states is a bit insane. The worst (which this is horrific to be fair) you can point to the genocide of the Crimean Tatars who were accused of working with the enemy (same excuse Turkish gov used to genocide the Armenians), which the USSR later apologized for in the 50s.

    e: actually i forgot about afghanistan, also quite awful for both the conscripts sent to their meaningless death, and the thousands upon thousands of civilians the ussr killed through indiscriminate bombing

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      A lot of these dorks really tell on themselves when they paint all socialist countries as worse or more imperialist than Canada or Sweden or whatever

      • Krem [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Because these people are mostly young people from north america and western europe, raised on post-cold war propaganda, and can't comprehend anything more socialist than a liberal democracy welfare state with a socdem party in power

    • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Was the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan a bad thing? They were defending a fellow socialist state against American-backed religious extremists.

      I'm dumb and unread so maybe I'm missing the bad part? Was it in how the war was executed?

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        It was utterly incompetently handled, at the very least. A truly useful intervention would have looked very little like what they ended up doing.

      • iwishthiswasicq [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        The american backing was not in the beginning of the war. There were effectively 2 afghanistan's, the people in the city and the rural people.

        When the soviets tried to impose mild secular reforms they had back lash from the rural farmers.

        Also the entire war was just soviet conscripts slaughtering civilians because they are far far worse off in terms of training / culture compared to american solider.

        Also Afghanistan was hardly a socialist state,'it em was basiclly a corrupt plutocracy that served as a puppet for moscow. Which is shown when they literally assassinated the head of state which helped descend the country into chaos

        • Vncredleader
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          2 years ago

          I thought it wasn't the soviets doing the mild secular reforms, but the guy who became head after the Saur revolution. Sparking actual backlash which he met with purges against them and the more Soviet-minded members of the revolution. However Brezhnev was flip flopping and hands off so he tacitly backed the leader

  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    :geordi-no: Every left-wing movement that ever succeeded.

    :geordi-yes: My oddly specific ideology that only exists online.

    Soviets? Cancelled. Cuba? Cancelled. Bolivia? Cancelled. Rojava? Chiapas? So awesome, what a paradise! No, I don't actually know anything about them, why do you ask?

    Honestly, assholes like this can only have two views on any movement that actually succeeds (all of which are outside the imperial core):

    • Actually they aren't leftists, they're fascists. Only people who agree with my ideology are real leftists.

    • Weird fucking gross fetishization where they know basically nothing about the actual situation on the ground but live vicariously by projecting their ideological fantasies onto actual revolutionaries struggling in the real world who most likely wouldn't agree with them on basically anything.

  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Memes about historical events from a leftist perspective our friends: /r/libjerk /r/rightjerk r/okbuddytankie

    Actual fucking clowns. :funny-clown-hammer: