The real dunks are in the comments, the OP is good: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/vl1m17/remember_china_has_abortions
Using "Karen" is somewhat dunkworthy though
For extra giggles, the post immediately below this one is a mod post clarifying that they are very definitely a socialist subreddit and not just a bunch of :LIB:s
went poking around the sub and found this
Democrats promised to codify abortion rights in the constitution during Obama's run. They didn't do it.
Democrats promised to forgive student loans during Biden's run. It's not gonna happen.
Relying on the Dems to fix this shit is like relying on the Uwalde police to protect school children.
we wish we could do something but the legislators are locked out of congress and nobody has the key!
Relying on the Dems to fix this shit is like relying on the Uwalde police to protect school children.
It's almost 1:1 since the dems increased funding for SCOTUS protection to stop anyone else from doing anything about it after the leak.
Looks like the mods nuked all the comments to hell, except two :zenz:
I keep saying it, reddit has had a CIA freak as their moderation head for years.
That shit is under alphabet agency capture
There was a post that is now deleted where an admin who wasn't clued in revealed that the zip code of the US with the highest number of Reddit posts per day was an air force base in Virginia, lmao.
I walked away for half an hour for food and the number of comment threads went from 30+ to 2 :nuke:
Let me correct myself: not communist. They're socialist, meaning they are developing communism.
And yes, these 2 ARE socialist.
omfg this person is at 35 fucking downvotes holy fucking shit!
Friendly reminder that many western liberals that perceive themselves as leftists genuinely believe America is closer to achieving socialism than China or any other country.
All America needs to do is vote out Republicans and enact comprehensive free healthcare and housing assistance and UBI and strict regulations on businesses to become a socialist paradise! The more a country becomes less like America, the more red fash authoritarian it becomes! :galaxy-brain:
When I first came to this site I was a radlib but I tried to learn
At first, I believed most of the lies about China but then I started seeing how parts of the narrative didn't add up
The claims of genocide seemed untrue but what about cultural genocide? So I look into that and I tried to look at it from the perspective of the Uyghur people and what I discovered made me incredibly angry with the people who lied to me
A cultural genocide was attempted in Xinjiang but not only were the Chinese government not the perpetrators, it was the CPC that saved the Uyghur people and their culture from the ravages of fundamentalist Salafism imported by Saudi Arabia and supported by :amerikkka: through NED
When I watched a Vice video on the aftermath of China's crackdown on Muslim extremists and even they couldn't spin what the locals were saying to be against the government, I was even more certain and I can still remember the Vice propagandist interviewing an old man drinking in public and the old man saying, "I couldn't drink alcohol out in the open before, they would have killed me"
Then I learned the truth about Tibet and how despite the bullshit that stupid white western hippy pieces of shit who know nothing about history say, Tibet no longer needs to be freed
Tibet is free and it was China that liberated Tibet from feudal theocracy and a caste system that was barely any different from chattel slavery
The more I look, the more I like China's way of dealing with right wing fundamentalist religious extremists
Much better than America's way, which is making them unelected unassailable monarchs
There is a strange idea in America that politics end at the border. It's the reason why in prior times you were allowed to more or less have your own agenda with regards to foreign policy if you were a senator or a representative, especially in the 1980's and 1990's, when foreign policy had been entirely removed from popular participation. Didn't America used to have republicans who were friendly with Yasser Arafat and the PLO which today would seem unbelievable.
Do you have any more info on the salafism aspect I could read up on?
Conservative Cuba? Didn’t they just put a “family means whatever you want it to mean” into their constitution
Pope: says the same bad thing popes have been saying for decades
Libs: "This is impossible, I thought he was a Good Guy."
well yeah but if we get into all 2000 years of bad things we'll be here all day, best to focus on the last hundred.
They did change several of the things they say with Vatican II
No, the pope said NATO caused the Ukrainian conflict and we need to push for diplomacy, not fight to the last Ukrainian. The response from libs has been full anticatholicism of the Lutheran, not leftist, persuasion.
I forgot about that, but yeah it makes sense that most libs would be mad at him for saying something good.
Never forget Louise Mensch telling him to shut his mouth if he doesn't want to get invaded by NATO. Which was very strange for a jewish woman to say, at least I think she is jewish.
Their healthcare also subsidizes HRT as well as surgery for transitioning which is awesome.
Cuba has an evangelical block that pushes for more conservative measures, at least according to a few Cubans I've talked to.
Unfortunate, but not surprising. At least it sounds like they're losing
Cuba is also the least Catholic of the South American states.
Didn't know the Uyghur genocide narrative was still going strong.
I figured their attention span was too short to care before moving onto another manufactured story. But then I forgot Tibet still gets brought up from time to time.
Yup, no major retractions from any of the propaganda outlets and it's already in their head to terminate any possibility of thought
Such projection from a :germany-cool: man whose parents I can't find any information on, almost like it was scrubbed from the internet
:thinkin-lenin:
that is slander, adrian zenz parents have an extensive public record
that only exists after may 8th, 1945
sunk cost doesn’t apply for government ops with limitless budgets
i mean the uyghurs are very innocent muslims who are being oppressed and need the freedom of drone strikes and extrajudicial killings
It doesn't even make sense. That reeducation program stopped in 2019 from what I know
The average westerner does not know that the term genocide has a strict legal definition that requires a high standard of proof with clear intent for physical destruction of an ethnic, racial, national, or religious group. This means that you can have horrific atrocities, cultural destruction, and crimes against humanity, while still falling short of genocide due to the lack of sufficient evidence for genocidal intent. This is the reason why even historically pro-western anticommunist organizations like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International can credulously cite even dubious right-wing western atrocity propagandists like Zenz and Radio Free Asia, yet still do not declare genocide and opt for declaring crimes against humanity instead. Even the US State Department’s own lawyers determined that they did not have sufficient credible evidence for genocidal intent, but that did not stop Trump’s far-right neoconservative secretary of state from declaring genocide anyway. Articles in mainstream liberal outlets also argued against calling the repression in Xinjiang a genocide as well, although they still do criticize China for human rights abuse (as they should as the Xinjiang government has been conducting a counter-terrorism/anti-separatism campaign with overzealous enforcement, overly vague "anti-extremism" laws, and very little regard for due process):
- https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/biden-should-withdraw-unjustified-xinjiang-genocide-allegation-by-jeffrey-d-sachs-and-william-schabas-2021-04
- https://www.economist.com/leaders/2021/02/13/genocide-is-the-wrong-word-for-the-horrors-of-xinjiang
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/04/08/china-biden-us-conflict-escalation-xinjiang-genocide/
- https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3129325/xinjiang-what-west-doesnt-tell-you-about-chinas-war-terror
- https://www.standaard.be/cnt/dmf20210210_98292303
I also browse /r/TrueAnon and they have a large ML population. They always dunk on chuds who wander onto the sub. /r/AlwaysTheSameMap, /r/GreenAndPleasant (for UK stuff) are other left subs I know that very rarely have libs clogging up the discussions.
/r/GreenAndEXTREME and /r/SunlitUplands were created because /r/GreenAndPleasant is full of libs.
For real? I guess I only browse that sub like once a week max since I'm not British but I never see any lib takes, then again nothing explicitly calling for action or organizing.
It tends to vary a fair bit - and is often fine - but it definitely can have some lib takes sometimes. Apparently it does get brigaded quite a lot by the more right wing UK subreddits so potentially some of it is that.
I recall people defending the monarchy during the Jubilee but it was clearly brigaders.
The libs that get mad about China in that sub seem so confused, I have no clue how they wandered into that place.
They also have racial slave internment camps, child sweatshops, and a surveillance state that will make you vanish if you talk about a certain Square.
:screm: these people are so fucking goddamn stupid holy shit
they're such fucking dumbasses that they literally think the ENTIRE FUCKING TIANANMEN SQUARE HAS BEEN ERASED FROM HISTORY
ITS A FUCKING PUBLIC SQUARE PEOPLE GO THERE ALL THE TIME LITERALLY NO ONE HAS EVER CLAIMED THAT YOU CANT TALK ABOUT THE FUCKING SQUARE ITSELF YOU FUCKING IDIOT
:matt-jokerfied:
No they're right, you're not allowed to talk about the place or look at it, they even hung up a giant picture of :mao-wtf: to hide the square behind
Also, you know, they actively teach students about it and it's a well known event over there.
THIS is in the same vein as my favorite response to gun control arguments that say that
"no civilized nation should have assault rifles on the streets"
"Correct, America is a barbaric country that needs more guns."
Commenting again just to say that it isn't "whataboutism" when pointing out how the US, Canada, and Australia still have genocide going on that they continue to deny. The point is that they don't give a shit about Uyghurs and are clearly using it as political leverage, all while they continue to carry out soft genocide with their own indigenous populations. Cuba would have more of a leg to stand on if they criticized China than all the NATO countries.
The Dobbs decision pointed out that China and the DPRK have very permissive abortion access, can't quite remember the numbers (might've said something like both of them have no-questions-asked abortions for the first 20+ weeks, which accounts for basically all dont-want-this-baby abortions. Virtually all late-term abortions are done for medical reasons, which I have to imagine is perfectly acceptable there too)
Here's uhh, the truth about that "reducing non-medical abortions" clause https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1540517124317188096?t=q37oIiTDt0fCPCT25jfBrw&s=19
TLDR: "So an honest examination of the context shows this isn't a campaign to restrict abortion, it's part of an overall policy of expansion for contraceptives and reproductive health which will, among other things, reduce the volume of abortions organically."
projection verbal vomiting
thread full of deleted comments
everyone I disagree with is a CCP shillyup, it's mayo time
I miss the days when it was a boogeyman that terrified neoliberal.
i hate that good spots remove the bad takes, because the dunks are way better when you know the context. same with here. feel like there should be an option to maintain it for posterity while still saying it's removed.
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