Because I'm not a lib

The context to this is saying about how they're not a fan of the subreddit LeftWingMaleAdvocates, which is a bad subreddit, it's mostly just anti-feminist and basically just MRA, but they just call themselves left-wing. Most of their "left-wing" stuff is actually just "classical liberal" talking points, so they are bad, but calling them tankie is ridiculous.

  • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    70% of people who complain about “tankies” would use that against the Trotskyists who came up with the term :joker-troll:

        • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          We're gonna see :liberalism: get called a tankie on live TV by :live-tucker-reaction: one of these days

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            God I hope so, maybe people would finally figure out how meaningless the term is in contemporary context.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              No, no, no, it's gonna get hyper-commodified like every remotely lefty shit that isn't demonized by the libs and hyper-demonized like every remotely lefty shit that isn't commodified by the hogs

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Yeah but then they gotta come up with a new term for us which would be a refreshing change.

                Language is an arms race.

          • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            AOC, Bernie, or should he win, Fetterman, are going to be called tankies before Pelosi.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Fetterman will simply use his enormous arms to lift hecklers up to his enormous mouth and devour them, much like Saturn devouring his son.

                • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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                  2 years ago

                  When he becomes Governor, he'll institute his plan to hide cooked turkeys inside of randomly placed oil drums to ensure that everyone's health bars stay topped off

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Happens to me all the time lol

        Every time I have a discussion about history with American leftists (actual leftists doing good praxis but still having some brainworms) I have to preface everything with "I'm an anarchist but"

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Oh man, I work with Food not Bombs sometimes and they're the sweetest people I've ever met and doing the best work ever. Some of them though are so obsessed with the supposed lurking threat of tankies everywhere it's hard to talk with them outside of very immediate praxis. They even call American police "tankies" sometimes. One time a comrade called a public library a tankie facility because it had books by Marx inside.

          I'd still take these comrades over any liberal though. I'd die for them and that's more important

          • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            One time a comrade called a public library a tankie facility because it had books by Marx inside

            comrade

            comrade

            :thonk:

            • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              I mean yeah he's my friend and does a lot of work for homeless people but he's got a bit of American brainworms

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            Yeah I've had similar experiences, funny enough they would call Keith McHenry one of the founders of their org a tankie when he is very much not one, just has good takes on imperialism.\

            (unfortunately he also has some antivaxx brainworms last I talked to him)

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I asked them "what's a tankie" let's see how this goes

    :antelope-popcorn:

    • bananon [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      “Women do not hold up half the sky”

      -Mao Zedong

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        "The entire party and country should hurl into the fire and break the neck of anyone who dared trample underfoot the sacred edict of the party on the attack of women's rights."

        -Enver Hoxha

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Tankies are just actual real communists because they just live rent free in someone's mind

  • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Nothing annoys me more than the counter-culture customized snoo avatar.

    Until said snoo avatar says "tankies"

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    When people ask for a definition of tankie I go with "Anyone that supports the soviet union, cuba, vietnam etc." then follow up after others agree with "Like Jeremy Corbyn" to throw a wrench in the machine.

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    lol jfc I was checking out LMWA they go full evopsych Jordan Peterson shit in here

    https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/nl7ync/how_do_you_feel_about_traditional_gender/

    These are the guys who insist they're the REAL left and feminism is actually fascism. Burn :reddit-logo: to the fucking ground.

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Shit like this sucks. There are legitimate discussions to be had about the demonization of masculinity in anti-patriarchal spaces, how that effects masculine trans people, and how it encourages an individualistic moral lens rather than a systemic one. But it becomes so hard to discuss without it becoming a space for fragility and placing blame

      • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        This is a regular discussion in the free talk and mental health threads of Menslib. Unfortunately, the sub doesn't really go hard into solutions, but it does at least talk about this. It's not organization or theory, but it can at least feel good for anyone who feels hurt by that kind of rhetoric.

          • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
            hexagon
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            2 years ago

            Yeah, I mostly just go there for the mental health and free talk threads, because it's basically the only subreddit in which I can talk about my mental problems (which, if I'm going to be honest, heavily involve dating) without either:

            A) Being attempted to be indoctrinated into some red or black pill shit, or given a bunch of weird evolutionary psychology/Jordan Peterson shit about "the way women are".

            Or B) Have a whole lot of things be projected onto me, being told that I'm basically an incel, or that I'm sad about this because I don't see women as people, etc.

      • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Every time I find a new group of reactionary opportunists calling themselves “Marxists” (don’t laugh!), I understand a little better why Lenin was so catty about their co-opting of radical terminology :back-to-me:

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          “Marxists” (don’t laugh!)

          Lenin dunking on libs from beyond the grave and being an all around timeless shitposter will never not be funny to me.

  • S4ck [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    So my strategy for this is trend is just to ask them if they know what the definition of tankie is. They don't fucking know because they're morons who just re-use words they hear. Like a fucking 7 year old.

  • sandinista209 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is just like how the right calls everything “woke” but for shitlibs.

  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    100% of the time "Tankie" can be substituted with "Commie" and nothing in the given sentence will change.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      You can literally substitute it with Teletubby and nothing will change. It's a thought terminating cliché that is used to prevent any critical thought on subjects outside the status quo.

      With how rapidly the status quo is shifting to the right now, it won't be long before Ted Cruz is called a tankie. Everything that isn't rolling tanks into a city to put down protests will be called tankie.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    damn i cant believe i just got forcibly detransitioned like this for being left wing

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    left wing male

    So much cringe in that phrase

    Most of their “left-wing” stuff is actually just “classical liberal” talking points, so they are bad, but calling them tankie is ridiculous.

    Counterpoint: :tankie:

    Libertarians would love to drive around in a fleet of tanks.

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      No, no. Trust me, the guys this person are referring to are NOT to the left of Bernie.