Shooter shot down from top of a building with a rifle.
Rifle recovered, shooter in custody.
Bobby Crimo, the “person of interest” in the Highland Park shooting, in Trump flags.
JUST IN: Sources tell us Robert Crimo III has been taken into custody. @cbschicago
https://twitter.com/TVTye/status/1544103623709310977
the shooter is white teen/college age.
the North Shore has a notoriously large Jewish population.
on July 4th which could juices fash to do ‘patriotic’ shit.:doomjak: non-zero chance this is a fash thing
There are so many easier bits to do if you wanna put some effort into your copypastas
Watch it collapse and hope in its dying throes it doesn't nuke the planet with its giant death machine. I don't think anything else would work by now. An actual description of the country in a book would be rejected by publishers as 'too on-the-nose dystopic' at this point.
Hopefully China realizes soon that an America in decline is a global liability, and accepts that exporting revolution is the only way to prevent global catastrophe.
Honestly I feel that with the newly aggressive belt and road initiative in lots of country's pissed off by US imperialism that they hopefully ramp this up alongside realizing they will need to immediately seize nuclear devices from the US as well as find a way to make sure it's armed forces don't go off the rails.
It won't be seizing. The will just economically isolate the US and then defensively intercept any attempts the US makes to use nukes.
I highly doubt the US has even maintained their nuclear weapons well enough they wouldn't fail to launch
I don't think it's that easy to export revolution to a country where the police is military 2 full of right wing dickheads.
Take note that the police are legit frightened by armed responses and militancy. I feel that if any actually sponsored leftist revolutionary front were to occur here they would likely easily hobble police responses (then the national guard would come in and you'd get northern Ireland with checkpoints and controlled movement but even that would likely fuck up things even worse). Overall I just feel the US is actually very internally fragile once that bridge has been crossed (imagine Russia and China just throwing money and arms to every single revolutionary and secessionist oriented group you could imagine.
A leftist insurgency under normal circumstances, with roads and electric and water grids intact and farms shipping out corn and soy, would be crushed.
However, under unusual circumstances that favored integration, redundancy, inclusivity, and local resilience... if a bunch of stuff were to collapse by an act of God, we'd mostly just have to survive on our own and defend our permaculture communes.
Neither of those things have anything to do with the other.
Close to the scenario of Jericho, except in it it's a giant defense megacorp nuking its own country with some help from the CIA.
Carve out a living as well as you can, try your best to insulate yourself and your loved ones from the impending collapse. Strengthen community ties. Work towards greater self-sufficiency and stock up on whichever necessities you can't easily find locally (medication and medical equipment for instance).
My plan is to scrimp and save as much I can in the next couple years to nab a relatively isolated property in a climate resilient region when the housing bubble pops. I won't lie, my timeline has accelerated quite a bit in the last month or so.
It's been amazing seeing lib friends (who previously freaked when I was a open pro gun leftist) now ask me how to go about buying a gun and where to safely shoot it
Carve out a living as well as you can, try your best to insulate yourself and your loved ones from the impending collapse. Strengthen community ties. Work towards greater self-sufficiency and stock up on whichever necessities you can’t easily find locally (medication and medical equipment for instance).
What do I, as a Lennie Small type of individual, do?
All empires die, this one is no different and the productive forces unleashed by capitalism has sped up the process
I don't think we'll have to wait centuries for the collapse to play out like with Rome, and in the meantime our job should be to make sure the "Charlemagne of the United States" is communist, that's the best we can hope for given current conditions
It also depended on a radically different mode of production which was, for all of its monstrosity, far more tolerant to faults than the current American bare-bones, JIT economy.
American Commie Charlemane will bring back the Cura Annonae :red-fist:
Cura Annonae
TFW even the Roman Empire had a better welfare state than the US...
I hadn't thought about that before. Instantaneous communication is kinda wild when you think about it
You have to redact the weapons manufacturers at the very least
On another note, why are these shooters so rarely over the age of 25? Is it a brain development thing or what?
Yes these all help explain the whole shooter phenomenon, but how does that factor into the aspect of them all being so young?
less to lose, typically losers who haven't gotten what they feel entitled to, directed towards incel extremism.
the shooters are almost always young white men who feel that their seat at the white supremacist table has been unjustly stolen from them
on the other hand, a mass shooting at a Fourth of July parade is the most deeply American thing I’ve seen :agony-immense:
Mass shootings are so ingrained into the public consciousness as a uniquely American phenomenon that I would not be surprised if there would be a chud brain that thinks mass shootings are patriotic :pain:
There's a lot of hogs out there who are so far gone they hate America (and by extension things like the 4th) because the government isn't as openly racist/ghoulish as they are
Right, for a completely nihilistic fash this would be a good way to keep up the shock and horror after something like Ulvade
Alone, shooting up a July 4th parade in a ritzy part of the country might seem slightly less depraved than an elementary school. But it's the fact that this comes after Ulvade (which comes after other events, etc.) is a compounding factor that maintains the terror. And there's plenty of these chuds who want to do that, so rather than think "when will it end?" my mind is headed towards "who's next?"
They might not be able to completely exterminate their targets, but they can keep commiting acts of terror.
celebrate the birth of your nation by shooting a small part of it up
It's fucked up that my first thought was "well, I'm glad it was a July 4th parade and not a pride parade"
Feels like it's gonna be used to rile the hogs and escalate violence and crackdowns on the left though
Some other comrades in here saying it may have been because of the high Jewish population, so yeah
didnt a user LITERALLY joke that this would happen last shooting thread :doomjak:
Honestly it'd be more of a joke to say a shooting won't happen during a US holiday.
It's just like predicting the fucking rain at this point. It's just a thing that happens that nobody really gives a shit about anymore
And the prediction is just “It’ll rain somewhere in the country”
18-20 years old white male blue/white shirt
probable nazi shooting people celebrating the most successful white supremacist project in history :amerikkka-clap: literally nowhere is safe from these people :agony-immense:
Still at large? I know the pigs seem to chicken out every time there's an actual threat, but how they fuck do they let him get away after firing from a rooftop? Even if they were too afraid to go up there all they had to do was block the exits.
Fog of war. It can be difficult to ascertain where shooting is coming from if you know how to do it. The shooter would need less than a minute to dump a magazine or two into the crowd then book to a getaway car. In that time period people would likely still be running away or attempting to help injured people. No one is likely to be looking at the back exit of a building, and the shooter could easily be lost in the chaos.
Too busy seeking cover to worry about returning fire? Their job is to go home at the end of the day, not confront some madman with a gun.
This shooter appears to have intended to escape. A lot of massacre perpetrators intend to be caught or die.
I BEG FOR JUST ONE MONTH WITHOUT A MASSACRE :agony-mescaline:
the rest of the world has been saying that to Amerika for the last 100+ years
How else would the US defense industry test out its new toys every 12-18 months like clockwork?
Didn't someone around here say that civil war here would resemble The Troubles? I don't know much about the The Troubles but that sounds accurate.
The Troubles meets Years of Lead. Seen that quote doing rounds on the collapse r*ddit too. Being here seeing it, and based on what I've read on the two its starting to check out. US Balkanization won't be a quiet into the night for sure, I just hope the states don't nuke everyone and themselves on the way out.
First 5 min of Balkanization; Texas nukes everyone to make Biblical prophecy come true.
The Troubles meets Years of Lead
What exactly was the difference between the two beyond geographical location?
Triggering points were different too and can't exactly be separated so smoothly from geography (there was an urban rural split too in where the violence occurred), here's a tldr; The Trouble was a question of rights of a nation to self-determination, Years of Lead was more political-social-economic determination.
I figure the US will be a bit of both in there are states or regions that want to secede no longer feeling they belong to the country because of religion and political reality (The Troubles, though not quite since the US isn't a true nation), and there are fascists that are out killing leftists/whoever they don't like, which will eventually lead to retaliation (like Years of Lead) since people don't exactly sit there and die when they can see an obvious causer of death and this will radicalize some (a lot of it was paid opportunist faction sadly), unfortunately most will become ultras or ideologically confused. In Years of Lead there was a monarchist-funded Maoist Hitlerite group, in our version Lyndon Larouche will getting his paid patsocs to join up with Patriot Front or something.
Franco Freda was the leader of the group, I can't remember who the aristocrat was. Nazbols aren't and weren't always just terminally online fools.
"Monarchist Maoist hitlerite" sounds like something youd read on twitter
every single time this happens most people I know will argue that every single person needs to be armed at all times. They'll say it's somehow more of a threat, and that shooters will be less likely to attack if they know everyone's armed. I asked one person how you could properly trust a stranger who you meet who's visibly armed. They didn't have an answer, rather a kind of "You just know if a person's a good person."
yeah I don't believe these kinds of attacks are done by people who have a long term strategy or even expect to live through the encounter. They don't assess the risk going in, they don't believe in a future and just go.
I'm for the working class being armed, but also organized.
They didn’t have an answer, rather a kind of “You just know if a person’s a good person.”
:us-foreign-policy:
yeah I don’t believe these kinds of attacks are done by people who have a long term strategy or even expect to live through the encounter.
considering these stories usually end with "before turning the gun on himself" i think you're right
This video is super jarring . You can hear at least a dozen rounds go off, and people are still sitting in their chairs watching the parade. I can't imagine what it feels like in those first few moments of confusion, when the reality sets in that there is an active shooter about to completely fuck up whatever it is you had planned.
Here's another video of parade marchers (tons of kids), getting ready to start. You can hear the gunshots go off, and a little kid says, "Are you kidding me right now?"
Oh dear god I made a joke about how people would just sit there when a mass shooting happened because they wouldn't know if it was fireworks or a mass shooting back when people stampeded during a pride parade.
there were 3,561 shootings in Chicago in 2021, an average of 9.7 per day
Isn't Highland Park a suburb of Chicago?
edit: Okay just had to make sure it wasn't a different Highland Park. So, yeah Highland Park is related to Chicago by geographical distance to answer your question.
Highland Park is not even next to Chicago, there are other suburbs in between. This shooting has nothing to do with Chicago gun crime, a favorite boogeyman of the right.
9 dead, 57 shot this weekend apparently
https://twitter.com/chifreemedia/status/1544003202663809024?t=QwFjKVBYzUtnYP7uMd2_UQ&s=19
I vote we shut down Lightfoot's office until we figure out just what the hell is going on
?? highland park is not even next to chicago. there's like multiple suburbs in between