• glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Literally one of the most inspirational humans in history, on a list with nut job American serial killers and literal genocidal maniacs. This world and the beliefs of brainwashed people are so cursed.

    • TrashCompact [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Fidel was certainly a good guy on the whole and apologized for his mistakes, but he did make mistakes, some of which resulted in the gratuitous state persecution of minorities such as the anti-homosexuality law.

      Again, good guy, and it's no accident that Cuba is one of the most socially progressive countries in the world today, but he did also do some bad things.

        • TrashCompact [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, it's 100% the gusanos who are mad Castro took their slaves. If they even mention the homophobia thing, it's as a rhetorical tool and not due to any real concern.

    • BerserkPoster [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      The way he dealt with LGBTQ+ community is definitely a black mark. For what it's worth it literally snuck into one of the camps and saw how they were treated and shut the camps down iirc and took responsibility for it.

      • Coolkidbozzy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Do you have a link where I can read about him sneaking into one of the camps?

        • BerserkPoster [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Fidel shut down the UMAP

          Fidel Castro stated categorically about the UMAP, “I can tell you for sure that there was prejudice against homosexuals.”

          On the island, the Cuban National Union of Artists and Writers (UNEAC) reportedly protested treatment of homosexuals working in UMAP, prompting Fidel to check it out for himself.

          A Cuban who worked in a UMAP, interviewed by Nicaraguan poet Ernesto Cardenal in 1970-1971, related that Fidel slipped into a UMAP brigade one night and lay down in one of the hammocks. The interviewee said: the UMAP guards would sometimes cut the hammock cords with their sabers. “When one guard raised his saber he found himself staring at Fidel; he almost dropped dead. Fidel is the man of the unexpected visits.” (“In Cuba”)

          A youth described as a “young Marxist revolutionary” told Cardenal that 100 young males from the Communist Youth were sent to the UMAP to report back about how they were treated. “It was a highly secret operation. Not even their families knew of this plan. Afterward the boys told what had happened. And they put an end to the UMAP.”

          https://www.workers.org/2007/world/lavender-red-92/

          I will say this though -there aren't really any sources here. Would like there to have been some sources

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      i'm guessing Eichmann is on there because the boomers and quiet generation folk would have recognized his name from the televised trial

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I was trying to figure out how Hitler got <9% of the vote but then I saw the source and now I'm surprised he made the list at all.

    • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I'm so glad he lost completely because if some kinda peace deal or bullshit was done the west would have rehabilitated his ass in 2 heartbeats.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        2 years ago

        I wonder, would they have bothered to have him claim he had no knowledge of the camps?

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          It would probably be similar to how Japan got rehabilitated. The topic simply wouldn't come up often, like how Unit 731 and occupation/genocide of Koreans, Chinese, Indians, etc just don't come up often in comparison to the Holocaust.

          • VILenin [he/him]M
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            2 years ago

            Libs would simply deny the Holocaust and cry a river when Adolf Hitler Jr. gets owned on some random street

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          In his new best-selling autobiography Mr. Hitler, or "uncle Adi" as the German press likes to call the nation's former leader, refutes allegations of mistreatment of refugees in internment camps during the war. His position is backed by leading historians who refutes the claims of gas chambers, crematoria and slave labour as Soviet propaganda intended to remove focus from communist atrocities during the war.

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It's NYPost.com users, all this means is they think Clinton is more communist than Stalin but not as communist as Hitler.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      America: The guy who was kinda creepy towards Condoleezza Rice, but we don't know anything else about him? EVIL!!! Condoleezza Rice, responsible for an untold number of deaths? Yas Queen!

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    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      China didn't have the same kind of cultural status back then as an enemy nation to the US. At best you'd occasionally hear something about Tibet independence. Jiang Zemin was still president and China was still in the process of gradually building up its industrial capacity. It really is kind of fascinating how quickly China became so vilified.

      • forgotmylastpword [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Would you be willing to explain a bit about why? I had the same impression about him, but after some reading it seems that the atrocities in Cambodia were played up by the US to cover for he US' absolutely inhumane bombing campaign in the region. Is it because Pol Pot mobilized against the Vietnamese?

        Just looking for more resources because it's been difficult to find impartial sources and clearheaded analyses so far.

        • Hotspur21 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I’m honestly not an expert at all. But mcveigh killed 168 people. Way more than that died during the Cambodian genocide

  • Cherufe [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Most evil people in history in no particular order:

    -bill clinton

    -adolf hitler

    -anthony fantano

    • Wertheimer [any]
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      2 years ago

      The U.S. bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade in 1999, so maybe we were trying to play nice in the aftermath of that.

      Jung Chang's 2005 "biography" of Mao did a shitton of damage. I don't know how bad Mao's image was in the U.S. before then, but she's the one who really got the ball rolling on the "worse than Hitler" kind of talk.

      • TrashCompact [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        There's a book from 1994 that used to be very popular (still gets parroted on Reddit today, just with no source). It depicts Mao as having a personal depravity that might be more comparable to Genghis Khan or Caligula. It is also completely discredited among scholars even in the US, but that never stopped anyone from saying ridiculous shit about, say, the USSR.

        I think the "Mao killed trillions" idea came about no later than the Black Book of Communism, published in 1997, which blames 65 million deaths on the PRC. In short, the book you cite might have sparked a new wave, but I think overall it was following a trend rather than setting one.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Private Life of Mao

          wish I hadn't read that pile of lies during my lib years, it set my political development back

        • Wertheimer [any]
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          2 years ago

          Thanks for the correction. I think I got my impression from the afterword of the most recent edition of Philip Short's biography of Mao, and he may have focused on Jung Chang's distortions more than the others because she was his direct competition.