"This is not how we do things in this country."

Uhh, clearly it is. Did you not see the part where this happened in this country?

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    “Cleaning” what a gross euphemism for destroying people’s homes of last resort

  • Commander_Data [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I wonder if most people on the left realize the true importance of John Brown and preserving his memory. When he was active in Kansas and especially after the failed raid on the armory at Harper's Ferry, the prevailing public sentiment was that he was a bit of a crazy person. Fredrick Douglass even told him as much. It was only after he was captured and interviewed by the press, as well as the accounts of his incarceration and execution to the press by the governor of Virgina, that Brown's public image was rehabilitated.

    No matter what we do, people are going to call us crazy extremists until they don't.

    • Tormato [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Great point.

      In prison during his death sentence he was practically holding court with all sorts of people. Newspaper articles came out, he wrote prodigious letters and his appearance in court were legendary defenses of his noble cause.

      Most of his closest supporters and newspapers succumbed to the pressure and denounced him as crazy.

      But not Thoreau . Who wrote a beautiful defense of him.

      When the shit hits the fan too many fall for cowardice.

    • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Wait you're telling me marching around saying things like "Uwu pwease Mistor Opwessor pwease wift your boowt a widdle bit" isn't effective?

      What if I did that, but also with a unique hat I came up with for everyone to wear?

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    fucking

    YES

    fuck you dallas news
    the John Brown Gun Club is one of the few orgs that give me hope in american leftists

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      John Brown Gun Club

      Blocking people from hurting the homeless

      BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED BASED

    • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      John Brown Gun Club

      I missed the caption for the photo, I didn't realize that was the name of the group. Amazing.

      :sicko-yes: :john-brown:

      • Vncredleader
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        2 years ago

        They go to protests and guard them from cops and chuds. Report people who seem to be plain-clothes police, etc. Legit community policing

  • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If 1 guy with a gun can put the entire Uvalde Police Department to a standstill, what can 40 guys with guns do?

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Journalists are mercenaries whose arms are too weak to lift a gun. Pond scum.

    • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Last week, a group of about 40 activists used their bodies and cars to block city officials from cleaning the site of a homeless encampment under Interstate 45 in South Dallas. Some of them carried rifles.

      Then, on Monday, activists showed up again even though there weren’t city officials around. At least one man with a long gun could be seen from the street.

      The freedom to criticize our government is one of the most important rights enshrined by our nation’s Constitution, but there is a line between protest and intimidation. Activists who physically interfered with the work of code enforcement officers should be investigated by police.

      It’s clearly a scare tactic to bring a long gun to a protest against an encampment cleanup, and activists last week positioned themselves to prevent city workers from reaching the camp. Christine Crossley, the city’s director of homeless solutions, told us that city staff were alarmed by the presence of guns.

      City spokeswoman Catherine Cuellar added: “The normalization of this behavior is making the work for city staffers and the city as a whole more dangerous.”

      We cannot as a society tolerate people using weapons to frighten city employees who are merely trying to do their jobs. The city of Dallas gave camp residents advance notice that they would show up to clean the site, which is critical and time-consuming work necessary to make the camps safer and more sanitary for the people who live there.

      More importantly, the cleanups are part of a broader outreach program by the city, nonprofits and other partners to lift up those stuck in persistent poverty. Since September, 971 people have been placed in homes through the Dallas Real Time Rapid Rehousing Initiative.

      In this case, there were no immediate plans by the city to shut down the camp, according to city officials. City Hall’s overarching strategy involves proactively helping the people at the encampments with housing and resources and eventually removing the camps.

      The most vulnerable in our city deserve more than a patch of dirt under a bridge. It’s inhumane to allow the encampments to continue indefinitely, and we are glad our city wants to address this problem in a productive way.

      It’s intolerable for citizens to respond to policy decisions they don’t like by bringing rifles to a protest, which hints at the possibility of violence, and physically blocking government workers from doing their jobs.

      Unfortunately, this kind of intimidation is aided by our state’s misguided open-carry law. Openly carrying long guns at protests and rallies is unnecessarily provocative and compromises public safety.

      This is not how we make our voices heard or how we get problems fixed in this country.

      • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        I also really like this bit:

        Then, on Monday, activists showed up again even though there weren’t city officials around. At least one man with a long gun could be seen from the street.

        It subtly says a lot. I guarantee the John Brown Gun Club didn't self report that they were still there protecting the camp. I am am also certain that nobody bothered interviewing the homeless for their perspectives. This means that city officials were in fact around, probably police in plain clothes monitoring the situation.

        This really makes you wonder who wrote this opinion piece in the first place. It almost seems like maybe, possibly perhaps, someone from a police department wrote it. Who could say?

        I will say however, if anyone from the JBGC is reading this. Watch your back.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Spot on. Also, the language of the article (and certainly in the section you show here) makes it sound scary and ominous that they're armed. This is Texas, where guns are supposed to be a proud part of the culture to the point that people fetishize them.

          • SoyViking [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            This is Texas, where guns are supposed to be a proud part of the culture

            Isn't it an unspoken part of US gun culture that it was always meant to be practiced exclusively by white reactionaries so they could protect the existing order against non-whites, poors and "radicals" who were never supposed to have guns?

            • star_wraith [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Yes, 100,000% correct. Some of the first modern gun control legislation came from Ronald Reagan and California Republicans, who started to shit their pants once black folks in Oakland (the Black Panther Party in particular) started arming up.

            • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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              2 years ago

              Also the militia mentioned in second amendment is slave patrollers. That's who :amerikkka: wants guns for

              • Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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                2 years ago

                Not just used for slave patrols but also genociding native americans. Just literally large scale state sanctioned lynch mobs

          • primrosepathspeedrun [she/her,des/pair]
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            2 years ago

            yes but comminists and anarchists are NOT part of texas culture, the guns are supposed to go with our lord and savior, supply side jesus, and his divine father, ludwig von misis.

            • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              silence, fed. brand new account account posting about violence and inviting people into off-site chats.

              lol as if labor law is real. burn down a family dollar near you!

              https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675199

              honestly this is the reason i am now okay with political violence. why I just cannot give a shit about random lib lives anymore.

              https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2674754

              so does anyone have an not-super-tracked resources on 3d printing guns?

              https://hexbear.net/post/211276/comment/2675528

              so i guess im in favor of burning down tim hortons now.

              https://hexbear.net/post/211293/comment/2675400

              gotta kill all the racists if you want your reconstruction to have sticking power.

              https://hexbear.net/post/211219/comment/2674682

              does this have groups/private threads, or are we going to matrix or signal or something?

              https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675473

              Death to America

        • JamesGoblin [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It doesn't really matter which member of the fascist regime wrote it, anyway there is no chance it was a journalist since these are extinct.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        the cleanups are part of a broader outreach program by the city, nonprofits and other partners to lift up those stuck in persistent poverty.

        This is some real sicko shit.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah I really hate the rhetoric that the activist s were preventing progress for these homeless people. It's not like they would be there with rifles to prevent you from talking to homeless people and telling them about a housing first project that would ensure they all received apartments.

          I mean I hate to :19::84: but damn, "You're harming these people egregiously by making sure their homes and possessions aren't destroyed. Our project to take all their possessions from them is actually in their best interests" is pretty nuts

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          lift up those stuck in persistent poverty

          "Lift up," if these cryptofascists get their way, will involve smoke rising into the air from the ovens. I am not joking.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            No, I'm with you. I fully expect them to formalize a process of enslaving homeless people any day now. I mean they already are, with those "Felony camping" laws.

          • star_wraith [he/him]
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            edit-2
            2 years ago

            Just the other day, Trump was literally talking about setting up concentration camps (though he called them "tent cities") outside major cities for homeless people.

        • SoyViking [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Why are you mad at me? I'm throwing away all your possessions that you need to survive in order to help you!

      • ClathrateG [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        :gold-ancom:

        I thought being armed was a virtue in Texas? Guess not if you're a leftist

        • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          I'm like 1000% certain when they say "government workers" they mean police goons who were sent there to kick over bicycles and throw tents into dumpsters.

          "We were here to help them, we were totally giving away free food and houses but THE LEFT decided the homeless can't have nice things" is how this is meant to read. It's the highest form of bullshit.

      • Foolio [any]
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        2 years ago

        We cannot as a society tolerate people using weapons to frighten city employees who are merely trying to do their jobs

        Imagine writing this sentence unironically.

        • Apolonio
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          10 months ago

          deleted by creator

            • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              silence, fed. brand new account account posting about violence and inviting people into off-site chats.

              lol as if labor law is real. burn down a family dollar near you!

              https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675199

              honestly this is the reason i am now okay with political violence. why I just cannot give a shit about random lib lives anymore.

              https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2674754

              so does anyone have an not-super-tracked resources on 3d printing guns?

              https://hexbear.net/post/211276/comment/2675528

              so i guess im in favor of burning down tim hortons now.

              https://hexbear.net/post/211293/comment/2675400

              gotta kill all the racists if you want your reconstruction to have sticking power.

              https://hexbear.net/post/211219/comment/2674682

              does this have groups/private threads, or are we going to matrix or signal or something?

              https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675473

              Death to America

        • Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          merely trying to do their jobs

          If you are a municipal worker and have to start using the Nuremberg defense maybe it's time to reassess

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        there is a line between protest and intimidation

        The line send to be who died the protesting. When the fash shows up in tacticool gear armed with assault rifles, liberals are all polite about it but when someone on the left brings a single gun they clutch their pearls.

        director of homeless solutions

        Nazi-ass sounding job title if there ever was one. They're working their way to a final solution.

        merely trying to do their jobs

        And exactly what is their jobs here? Harassing and brutalising internally displaced persons who did nothing but trying to survive under inhuman conditions. This concern trolling about how the goons are "just doing their jobs" is literally the Nuremberg defence.

        The most vulnerable in our city deserve more than a patch of dirt under a bridge.

        If these ghouls cared about the internally displaced persons in the refugee camp they would house them, not rob them of their last worldly possessions.

          • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            silence, fed. brand new account account posting about violence and inviting people into off-site chats.

            lol as if labor law is real. burn down a family dollar near you!

            https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675199

            honestly this is the reason i am now okay with political violence. why I just cannot give a shit about random lib lives anymore.

            https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2674754

            so does anyone have an not-super-tracked resources on 3d printing guns?

            https://hexbear.net/post/211276/comment/2675528

            so i guess im in favor of burning down tim hortons now.

            https://hexbear.net/post/211293/comment/2675400

            gotta kill all the racists if you want your reconstruction to have sticking power.

            https://hexbear.net/post/211219/comment/2674682

            does this have groups/private threads, or are we going to matrix or signal or something?

            https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675473

            Death to America

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    edit-2
    2 years ago

    "That's unacceptable" No it isn't, you're just a fucking wussy loser. Shut the fuck up. This is literally the coolest and most inspiring fucking shit I've seen all month, literal bloomer-optimism shit.

    "This is not how we do things in this country" B*tch, that we haven't made a habit of acting exactly like this is part why things have gotten so bad. Part of how this country will improve is by more people being willing to take up arms and defend and support each other as humans, against capitalism.

    *EDIT: I can't even shit-talk the author of this garbage by name, because they credit it to the fucking editorial board lol

      • PasswordRememberer [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        silence, fed. brand new account account posting about violence and inviting people into off-site chats.

        lol as if labor law is real. burn down a family dollar near you!

        https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675199

        honestly this is the reason i am now okay with political violence. why I just cannot give a shit about random lib lives anymore.

        https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2674754

        so does anyone have an not-super-tracked resources on 3d printing guns?

        https://hexbear.net/post/211276/comment/2675528

        so i guess im in favor of burning down tim hortons now.

        https://hexbear.net/post/211293/comment/2675400

        gotta kill all the racists if you want your reconstruction to have sticking power.

        https://hexbear.net/post/211219/comment/2674682

        does this have groups/private threads, or are we going to matrix or signal or something?

        https://hexbear.net/post/211236/comment/2675473

        Death to America

    • GoebbelsDeezNuts [any]
      hexagon
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      edit-2
      2 years ago

      Is “cleaning the camps” mayocode for “kicking out the homeless”?\

      This. It's this.

      In situations like this the language is nigh genocidal and "cleaning" typically means throwing away their stuff and giving them the boot. This type of language hints at their ideology, as they view the homeless as dirt that need to be removed. They view human beings as if they're dirt.

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Are there any articles about this event from a less reactionary perspective I could read? It seems like an incredible development imo.

  • BoldTake [e/em/eir, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Archived link: https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/editorials/2022/07/27/armed-activists-blocked-dallas-workers-from-cleaning-a-homeless-camp-thats-unacceptable