I've been reading the Homeschool Recovery sub and it leaves me wondering if this has ever been successful, for anyone

edit: sorry if this was unclear, I don't think that a group for people who hate the fact that they were homeschooled is a representative sample of the population, moreso that a lot of the qualitative points they brought up seemed pretty true to me

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    There's a lot of success stories, in my own family while I was not homeschooled my younger siblings were all way behind where they were supposed to be academically when my parents adopted them and they got caught up via homeschooling. I also knew some people in the military who were homeschooled who had good things to say about it.

    The problem is that a lot of homeschooling in the US isn't done because the kid has special needs that the public system isn't accounting for. In fact most of it is done strictly for reactionary reasons. Usually religious, sometimes secular, always batshit. Extremely controlling parents will choose homeschooling to limit their child's exposure to outside influences, and that's where a lot of the horror stories come from.

    From my limited knowledge it seems like the secret to success is having a network of parents working together, forming a kind of school district of their own, and for the kids to be enrolled in outside activities so that they interact regularly with their peers. As with everything it helps if you have money, good luck homeschooling if you need every working hour you can get to make rent.

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      i've heard of Tx secularists homeschooling so their kids get a decent science education but that was 10+ years ago and I have no idea how those folks or their kids are doing.

    • Liberalism [he/him,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      That's true, a lot of the people in that sub were homeschooled by controlling religious parents

  • Tormato [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    Found out recently that the late great Michael Brooks was homeschooled.

    One of the brightest and most promising Leftists of recent times.

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I think there's a lot of overlap with homeschooling and completely bonkers evangelicals. Or anti-vaccine hippies. Or Scientologists. Or any number of odd reasons a parent would want to keep their kids away from public schooling. So that probably has a lot to do with why the kids come out strange or traumatized. It probably can't turn out well for your teacher to be the same person telling you public schools are full of Satanic gay witches who will drink adrenochrome out of your blood.

    There are probably a lot of pretty normal parents who homeschool their kids, probably works out pretty well in some cases. Homeschooling is often the only option for kids who are disabled or neurodivergent in some way. I know someone who was homeschooled because she had really severe ADHD and her parents felt the school system wasn't treating it well. She's actually normal and cool. Another I know simply lived way out in a rural area and it was easier to homeschool than to drive them out 35 miles to the nearest school every morning, although he's incredibly weird and once told me there are homosexual hypnosis messages in Hollywood movies. His parents also told him the south won the civil war.

  • 20000bannedposters [love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    I personally know several. They are all well rounded and eventually went to some high school.

    But they aren't raised by crazy evangelicals. Even the non home schooled evangelicals are fucked up

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    I was homeschooled, it fucked me up. My parents didn’t even do the worst job of actually educating me, and I went to college and graduated at a normal time. The big problem was the lack of social interaction. I really struggled with how to talk to people and had to really figure it out myself in college, and i still feel pretty stunted on it several years later.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Don't worry, lots of people went to normal school and had those same problems

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        lmao I near completely shut myself out of social interactions in high school because talking to people is hard plus some bullying in 8th grade. Now I have no idea how to get or keep friends, and especially not a relationship.

        I basically just completely wasted my high school years :sadness:

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        True, but there are a lot of things that you figure out by being forced to be around tons of people your age for most of the day that you miss if you’re homeschooled, and imo those interactions are really important

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Even if you have relatively robust social circles it still doesn’t replicate having to spend the majority of your day around hundreds of your peers.

  • Dingdangdog [he/him,comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    My friends kid is currently homeschooled, he's 10 but makes friends where they live no problem. Like he socializes, gets bullied sometimes too, has plenty of friends, crushes, all that stuff.

    Smart too. They're doing it because the schools are becoming pretty deeply reactionary here and they, and me too, all had really terrible public schools experiences that still fuck us up.

  • moujikman
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    2 years ago

    I didn't go to school for a year b/c of an illness and was homeschooled. A tutor came in once a week and I just sort of hung out otherwise. I did a few worksheets and watched a lot of The Price is Right. When I went back to school, I wasn't behind at all and I remained in the accelerated classes. IMO, I think homeschooling is fine but some parents use it as a proxy for abuse.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I suspect it does in at least a small percentage of the cases. My lazy ass hereby invokes the toupée fallacy...

    Toupée fallacy - RationalWiki

    The toupée fallacy is an informal logical fallacy regarding silent evidence and the problem of induction. It is a type of selection bias (and of survivorship bias) that is most readily summed up by the following phrase: '

    "All toupées look fake; I've never seen one that I couldn't tell was fake."

    It should be obvious that such a phrase can only be said about bad toupées — ones that look fake — and not actually all toupées. If the person uttering this phrase saw a convincing toupée, they wouldn't have noticed it at all! Hence it is a fallacy to draw such a conclusion from a horrendously limited evidence base.

    But a toupée is only cosmetically ugly. Homeschooling seems to lead to a lot of really bad choices by parents and it makes a significant percentage of the kids significantly fucked up adults.

  • MoneyIsTheDeepState [comrade/them,he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I was homeschooled, and the only part of it that I dislike was the Evangelical shit. The education itself was - except for science and health - pretty solid

    None of my friends liked their time in the schools around here - public or private - and I had a pretty decent experience studying at home and pirating everything I heard about. Compared to the cop/nurse/prisoner sorting facilities local schooling options, I had a good experience with it.

  • SkolShakedown [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Billie Eyelash seems unironically well adjusted but her and her brother were homeshooled to become musicians not just like accountants or whatever.

    • Nephron [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Well adjusted? how would could anyone tell know? she is a celebrity millionaire

  • keepcarrot [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    One of my partners was homesxhooled, and did very well at uni and got a stable job before the end of their degree. Lots of healthy relationships, some unhealthy ones.

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    I know some people who did Unschooling and it worked out fine enough for them. The only people I know who were homeschooled are relatives of mine and...ehhhhhhh.