I feel like she used to be a darling of the old sub, but that seems to have stopped at some point and I now rarely see her mentioned.

  • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
    11·
    4 years ago

    I think she said some tasteless things about nonbinary people (I cant remember what but I remember being offended) but I mainly I feel like people here moved on from the breadtube community after videos became too drawn out and artsy instead of actually saying anything

      • qublic69 [none/use name]
        3·
        4 years ago

        alluding to non-binary gender identities coming at the cost of the rights binary trans people have.

        Privilege not rights. And "that's super fucking hard for us", which is sarcastic, meaning binary trans people should just suck it up and deal with it, because everyone has the right to express themselves.
        Even radical people like Villainette, that have real world praxis, say increased visibility is also a liability.

        The same was true for gay people; and many gays systematically wanted to distance themselves from trans people because they thought it hurt their acceptance.
        Natalie admits the same thing happens between binary transgender people (i.e. "old-school transsexuals") and non-binary people. That is Blaire White's whole shtick.
        But again, she thinks binary transgender people should suck it up.

        and turned her subreddit transmedicalist.

        The same way ChapoTrapHouse hosts turned their subreddit based.
        She doesn't control the reactionaries in her subreddit.

        She also had a transmedicalist do VA work for her

        Buck Angel deserves to be cancelled. Contrapoints made a forgivable mistake.

        Besides it was an easy mistake to make, Buck Angel is a transman from a previous generation, most transgender people just don't know his history at all.
        And there are nude statues of him; he never got phalloplasty, which he could easily afford, so then why would anyone assume that he could be a transmedicalist?

      • Lil_Revolitionary [she/her,they/them]
        16·
        4 years ago

        Oh yeah, that's what it was. I remember she posted a 40 minute video called "cancel culture" and i knew I was never going to watch her videos again

        • qublic69 [none/use name]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Her video was called "Canceling" and was an account of her own experience, it was not in opposition to ""cancel culture"" in general.

        • Good_Username [they/them,e/em/eir]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Something else to think about: even if it is true that every trans person has dysphoria (which, to be clear, I don't think is necessarily true, although I would claim that the vast majority of us do have dysphoria), it's sometimes really hard to recognize that what you're experiencing is dysphoria. So saying you don't need dysphoria to be trans can help questioning people be open to the idea that they may be trans even if they don't think they have dysphoria.

          I know this was the case for me; 3 years ago if someone had asked me if I felt dysphoria, I would have said no. But now I'm 3 months post top surgery and I've been on hormones for nearly a year. I had dysphoria all along, but I never would have recognized it if I hadn't allowed myself to think "hmm, maybe I'm trans, even though I don't have dysphoria".

        • TemporalMembrane [she/her]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Like a fish doesn't know it's swimming in water, some trans people don't feel dysphoria as intense as suicidal ideation or as something exceptional to everyday life. But (almost) all feel a sense of euphoria when their gender is recognized or when they can "perform" their gender by wearing appropriate clothes and so on.

          It's not easy to know you're trans if you just kind of get on with life. Some people don't realize it until they're well into their senior years (like 70 yo AMAB fresh trans queens). But there are signs, do you just kinda put on whatever clothes and don't think about it? Do you often fantasize about being a different gender then the one you were assigned at birth? Do you play a lot of characters in DnD or games that are a different gender? Y'know, stuff like that.

          • quartz [she/her]
            ·
            4 years ago

            This is a good analogy, actually. It's not like trans people naturally kill themselves, that's societal. I'm not sure a world where everyone knows women can be amab would make us hate our bodies as much. I think there'd be a lot less angst and pain about it.

      • Segorinder [any]
        ·
        4 years ago

        Not sure if I have the timing right, but wasn't this after there was some drama with the r/contrapoints mods, and she said she didn't approve of the subreddit and didn't want anything to do with it? Was this another subreddit, or did she do something to involve herself with r/contrapoints again?

    • Interloper [none/use name]
      ·
      4 years ago

      The artsy colored lights and shit instantly turn me off any of those videos anymore. I used to sit through hour long videos about the philosophy of whatever dumb shit but honestly it's exhausting now and I walk away feeling like I indulged someone's mediocre art piece instead of educating myself.

    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
      ·
      4 years ago

      too drawn out and artsy

      What's with the trend toward edgy aesthetics and overproduction in left youtubers? I subscribe to Carlos Maza because he's a smart cutey, but he's sorta adopted the multi-characters and dark surrealist shtick from Contra that I could do without.