In a recent video on Twitter, he compared the China of today to 2019 and was completely shocked at the speed to progress and change. Says it’s like stepping into the future.
1 - Automation: From trains to taxis to purchases - everything is done seamlessly with super Apple Pay.
2 - EV: 30%-40% of the cars are fully electric. You can get Teslas but you have Chinese brands that offer sedans for $10k.
3 - The air is much cleaner. Partly due to EVs.
4 - People are more respectful of societal norms. There is better service everywhere you go.
5 - Less foreigners, even in touristy areas. Most white people are actually Russian.
6 - In factories, robots do the work in contrast to the perception people have in the US of China just throwing cheap labor at every problem. Factories set up their own e-commerce platforms and sell directly on China’s TikTok.
7 - It feels like over the past 5 years, everything by in China just got better, while everything in the US just got worse.
Damn it's so wild how a highly educated country with a vast social safety net isn't full of barbarians. Now here's why socialism will always fail...
It looks like China used the crisis that involved a lot of people staying home to do a bunch of stuff that can be done faster and more efficiently if there arent a bunch of people milling about.
Must be nice to live in a country that has a bare minimum sense of long term organizing for the betterment of its populace
It feels like over the past 5 years, everything by in China just got better, while everything in the US just got worse.
Coming to Finland from the US, I was surprised at the relatively higher use of machinery at things like construction sites. For example, using a bulldozer for moving small piles of dirt that I think in America would have been handled by a couple guys with shovels. Environmental question aside, the use of machinery in this way is good for labor QoL and longevity. Americans don’t realize how much harder they work for less pay.
the use of machinery in this way is good for labor QoL and longevity
I’d want to see more about this. In the US, automation and technology are used to threaten workers to comply with shitty labor laws, and when they are actually implemented, the human workers are usually never cared about after being laid off. I’m curious to see the differences in attitudes and implementation in China
Well I don’t mean to hijack a c/sino discussion, but I think the behavior and tactics of capital depends on its power relative to labor. Finland has relatively strong labor in part because of the welfare state. Capital can only demand so much before workers strike or quit. There have been multiple large strikes in the past months.
If and when the economy declines in Finland, all the meager social-democratic gains won by the socialists in the 20th century will be lost. And once they are lost, we probably won’t see them again without a revolution. We are already trending this direction as the social entitlements are being eroded by the current center-right government.
Do people in Finland and other Scandinavian countries recognize that their (dwindling) welfare state was the result of the bourgeoisie compromising between basic quality of life and getting stabbed with a sickle? I know in the US people think that we magically got 8 hour work days because the bosses were just so dang nice. Never mind the explicit communists* who fought and died for it.
I'm afraid a lot of them don't realise it. Very few people in the Nordics have ever experienced actual labour struggle up close and it is a widespread belief that the relatively high standard of living for working class people is caused by some racist bullshit about Nordic societies being more civilised and hard-working and intelligent than others. Another explanation that is pushed by the succdems and union bureaucrats is that everything is so good because the unions and the bosses negotiate rather than go on strike, the more bureaucratic and the less radical your union is the better.
racist bullshit about Nordic societies being more civilised and hard-working and intelligent than others
When Bernie ran, remember how everyone said Nordic-style socialism only works in the Nordics because they lack diversity?? Like what was the implication there? It didn’t make sense to me but this notion was very common.
I can’t understand it any other way than: social democracy cannot work in the US because a racist social hierarchy is natural; so, if there is only one race, then there can be no hierarchy. (Which isn’t even the case in any of the Nordics, but try explaining that to an American lol)
No these days most don't, but this is a result of a hundred year long very clear bourge campaing to rewrite history completely. Thinking that has also been demonized as "Soviet propaganda", same as anything even bordering a positive thought about our previous neigbour. All sources of history and public discourse about communism has been systemically demonized, the term Finlandization for example is a CIA brain child and so much more.
There are so many layers to this, but the mindset here could be used to define how consent is manufactured, how reds are othered and scared/discredired to silence and how everything is done to affirm and uphold the capitalist "truth". During my lifetime alone they have managed to fully reframe WW2 and nationalism here, without this I am sure things like Nato never would have actually happened. But they have very consistently worked for their goals of demonizing the working class, discrediting class power and turning state power fully into an extension of capitalist power. With incredible violence too that never gets talked about today.
CEO of company I'm at told me today that Chinese cars don't have crumple zones so when they do test crashes they either fold up like accordions or they shear off on impact. I highly doubt that, but he was so adamant that they're awful and they don't care about safety at all. I work with the shitlibiest of shitlibs i think.
If you ever want to push back on this, the Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP, the only useful ANCAP) has given five star ratings to the BYD Atto, Seal, and Dolphin, along with Great Wall Motors entire Haval range. This makes all these Chinese cars safer than the BMW i4, which only got 4 stars.
I looked it up online, couldn't find anything like what he was saying. I saw the EuroNCAP gave5 star ratings for several BYD models too.
Sometimes when comes to China certain people will just kind of hallucinate negative "facts" like Chat GPT. I think it's a phenomenon that should be studied.
😔 unfortunately he’s right
That’s how they contribute to the state-mandated communist death threshold
China sounds appealing to move to at times. I'd still be a poor bastard and I don't know a lick of Mandarin/Cantonese/Etc, but I'd worry less on losing the roof over my head and the food is 🔥.
r/china sexpats tend to enjoy bonding over the shared trauma of getting explosive diarrhea after overexposure to non-mayo substances, it's something of a tradition in white people social bubbles in china
The first time I went to Mexico all the
stories had me thinking that I was going to shit my guts out. I ate nothing but street food the entire time and never had any issues. I don't buy the "gut biome" explanation there's gotta be something wrong with them.When your "gut biome" is more sanitised and bacteria free than a hospital thanks to all the fast food you eat, anything with actual nutrients in it probably sends your digestive system into shock.
Fact: there’s a 100 percent crossover between the diaper fetish subreddit and the China subreddit. Source: my heart, which is always right.
He has at least one other video solely about shitting his pants
Honestly hard to say. I dug through his twitter page once I heard him say "uncivilized" and he's a weird dude.
People are more respectful of societal norms. There is better service everywhere you go.
Explain?
I'd rather not if I'm honest lol. It's why I didn't link the video or even gave the name of the dude.
CW - Racism
He framed it as China becoming more "civilized" where people no longer piss on the street or spit at your feet, and public washrooms have toilet paper (his excuse for why he used to shit his pants all the time). Later on, he said today it's like a Japanified version of China, referring to the people. He was also rude/negative to the couple of Chinese people who tried to talk to him while filming and framed them as scammers.
He framed it as China becoming more "civilized" where people no longer piss on the street or spit at your feet, and public washrooms have toilet paper (his excuse for why he used to shit his pants all the time).
Wow it’s almost as if eradicating extreme poverty means people stop shitting on the street! Who woukdathunk?
Later on, he said today it's like a Japanified version of China, referring to the people.
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A quick search on Wikipedia suggests that over 90% of households have basic toilets in 2019
Do Indians just enjoy shitting outdoors? Ten percent of 1.4 billion is a large number. And public toilets are a different matter.
I recently went to Shanghai and Beijing, as a Chinese person who used to live in both places I found that people were more likely to line up, less likely to litter, and less likely to have loud phone conversations on the train.
Service was more "nice" in Shanghai than in Beijing but both places people tried to help you. Was travelling with a Japanese person who noted that in Japan a service person is more likely to very politely tell you they can't help you, but in China they're more likely to act annoyed and hostile while they resolve your problem.
more likely to act annoyed and hostile while they resolve your problem.
I could easily live with this and say thank them profusely every time
I have a question. Who, ever, in real life has shit their pants? Not talking about people with medical issues, but afaik we can hold it in if needed. And we can shit in other places than just toilets, like in the woods or wherever. Shitting in your pants seems an interesting choice indeed. How does lack of toilet paper make one shit their pants?
Don't people like this ever experience times when there in fact are no toilets around to shit in? Like during a long nature hike does this guy carry a toilet with him to be able to not shit his pants?
Have you never gambled and lost with a fart?
Once or twice, I had diarrhea as an adult, and thought it was a fart, and wound up sharting.
Can't be that uncommon.
Can't say that I have.
I also tend to not go around touristing if I have diarrhea.
I am talking about adult humans on average being pretty capable of not shitting their pants.
This guy is saying he shat his pants many times in China because no toilet paper or public toilets. There aren't really any public toilets where I live either, apart from in malls and such where using them costs money. I still manage not to shit my pants and I think most people do.
there are public toilets everywhere in china though wtf. like way better than in every european country i've been to. granted you have to supply your own paper usually
i assume this guy is suggesting he had food that gave him some food poisoning. personally ive gone through that but even then i didnt shit my pants.
long route on public transport, no readily available bathrooms, lots of people around
i used to think shitting in public was uncivilized and disgusting behavior but after experiencing some dangerous episodes i have newfound respect for those with so few fucks to give that they are able to drop trow and blast one out in front of a crowd of people
IBS is pretty prevalent though. More than you likely think it is. Estimated to affect around 10-15% of the global population. So it's not just this fraction of a percent outlier sorta thing.
Yes, but am I arguing againts public toilets or saying people with IBS aren't genuinely in trouble without them? Did I not say medical issues excluded?
I am arguing againts this smug asshole who can't shit in a public toilet if it has no paper in it. And who is trying to frame Chinese toilets so bad that that alone has made him shit himself multiple times, which I do not buy.
Probably shouldn't say this because it'll end up as a sign in headline but as someone with IBS I've shat myself three times over my lifetime, twice in the states once in Europe, because available toilets were too far or closed or had lines etc. I don't just shit on the street because that can lead to law enforcement problems so I'm attempting to find a real toilet until it's too late.
I feel the colon spasms come on and I have five minutes max. Sometimes I don't make it in time.
Being open about it especially as it can leave me homebound at times when it's bad has led a lot of people to admit to me they've also had accidents or near misses.
As for the guy in the thumbnail it's probably a mix of four things:
• Making an exaggerated statement to get views
• Genuine unsanitary conditions giving him food poisoning that are improving
• IBS and either not knowing how to manage it through diet or not being willing to
• A crappy gut biome from a normally cruddy SAD diet.
Last time I did it happened it was because I sneezed really hard because it was too dusty at work. Actually, that wasn't the last time.
wow look here at mr never got shit faced and eaten nasty food, bet you've never been unconscious and pissed yourself either
If talking to me, not a mister.
Also I have spent my entire time in school bullied so bad that using the toilet was never an actual safe option. So anecdotally am of the mind that people are very good at holding it in for surprisingly long times if they must. Not saying this is healthy or something that should happen, but if there isn't toilets to be used most people don't in fact shit themselves.
CW: gross poo story
One time I had the shits, then I smoked a joint and found out that rather remarkably, weed is great for diarrhea.
Woke up the next morning with a sleepy weed brain, forgot I ever had diarrhea, lifted my leg for a mighty fart, and no joke, I sprayed a perfect line of watery shit down my bed and onto the wall at the end of it (in my tiny box bedroom). A perfect straight line.
Shit spray is the sort of thing I'd only imagined was really a thing in spoof movies and frat comedies. It was funny for about 5 seconds before I realised the weight of my actions.
Physical exertion + had a meal that upset your stomach + no immediately available public restrooms is a storm of events that can catch even physically healthy and fit adults off guard. Heard a few of stories from college students walking back to campus from wherever that got really unlucky on the way home.
I mean, I can if you really want. But I don't think he's a good guy lol. Plus it's over 11 mins long. Also, how he stated Point 4 is very different from how I framed it above.
Edit - Here's the vid, but not on the OG channel so he doesn't get the Twitter revenue.
CW - Racism
He framed it as China becoming more "civilized" where people no longer piss on the street or spit at your feet, and public washrooms have toilet paper (his excuse for why he used to shit his pants all the time). Later on, he said today it's like a Japanified version of China, referring to the people. He was also rude/negative to the couple of Chinese people who tried to talk to him while filming and framed them as scammers.
He framed it as China becoming more "civilized" where people no longer piss on the street or spit at your feet, and public washrooms have toilet paper (his excuse for why he used to shit his pants all the time).
I feel like after the first time I would just start bringing my own roll
Ikr? And/or just doing a game theory and shitting in the toilet anyways, since it's better to have less shit than more shit in your pants. Fulfilling the stupid American stereotype by walking around with shit in his pants and still daring to call the people subjected to the smell "uncivilized".
Yeah, like most women in the west have had to do always, because public toilets are always out of paper.
Wtf literally just wash your ass with water and soap.
I can't tell how advanced China is because the West is so backwards.
his excuse for why he used to shit his pants all the time
He looks like a sex pest omg. He has to catch his breath with every sentence and I don't like the camera being so close to his face.
Below average white western men in China must be purged.
What a disgusting epitome of western chauvinism this was. He has been going there for 10 years, but it was total shit, so why did he keep going back.
Love how people have spat on his feet there, pretty sure the reason for that can be found in the mirror and not in the people that have had to deal with this asshat.
He has been going there for 10 years, but it was total shit, so why did he keep going back.
Sex tourist for sure.
Honestly, this is borderline /c/the_dunk_tank for the shitting-in-his-pants sexpat.
the barbaric Asiatic constantly spits at my feet while I walk around with my boxers loaded with my own shit
Can't catch a fucking hint
It’d be really funny if the guy pictured here shit himself to a permanent end
I'm white and I think I can say with a pretty high level of confidence, a civilized white person is rarer than shuffles deck someone who's friends with me
