i mean, it's probably easier to have a language that is totally made up, which will have no exceptional grammatical cases, and has a vocabulary of like a 100 words, than a real, living language.
The best thing about GoT references is that they'll be culturally relevant forever
My favorite was when in the last scene of the series finale Tyrion walked into the council meeting and just said "What, are we just gonna sit here and play our little Game of Thrones?"
I think the objectively best moment was when Game Throne walked into the room and said "It's Thronin' time!" and Throned all over everybody.
Honestly, that still wouldn't be as stupid as the whole "Hold the door" thing...
i thought that was kinda cool though, what I won't forgive is fucking up the Tower of Joy scene with some shitty Hollywood shenanigans.
that was my favorite episode to trick my hodor-loving SO into watching. just sad the whole thing didn't turn out better.
My favorite was when Hillary stans compared her to Daenerys and then there was an episode where Daenerys massacred a city, causing said Hillary stans to complain about "Berniebros ruining television"
For people who had read the books published in 2015, it was painfully obvious that stanning anyone as Khaleesi or naming your kid that would look silly in the future. From the books released, she had already ordered children to be tortured and it was heavily foreshadowed she might be murderously insane.
Like I get it but god damn making the only person in the show who was willing to fight for the freedom of slaves into a medieval fascist was pretty fucked.
Yeah, but her "idealist slowly transforms into a ruthless ruler" arc was set up pretty early on.
This is why I always try and tell people sometimes realism ruins the immersion. :bernie:
Yall joke but they actually said the name of the show in the first season
The first could of seasons have a lot of staying power, that's for sure. Amazon tried to unseat GoT with their Wheel of Time show and it was just embarrassing. My guess is that Apple's LotR will crash and burn too.
i like my fantasy slop leave the wheel of time alone!!! :rage-cry:
In all seriousness, most genuine praise I’ll give the show is that they made some decently thought out changes to some characters that I always thought were just dumb and cringy. Not specifically talking about character traits or character growth, but Robert Jordan’s hints of weirdness coming through.
My biggest gripe is how rushed everything turned out.
Everything I've heard about Wheel of Time makes it sound like 14 books of :grillman: level takes about how women are like this, men are like that
It's closer to the author pointing out how dumb those takes are by flipping them on their heads, like having characters talk about how gossipy and useless men are.
Sure, you can categorize scifi and fantasy from the 50s-90s based on plot, subject matter, genre, whatever. Or you could categorize it based on the authors barely concealed sexual fetish that will reliably show up in every book they write.
I will never stop being mad they just gave Perrin a new wife to fridge her Ep 1 like excuse me, he has a wife, she's the queen of fucking Saldaea
I'm very hopeful season 2 is more salvageable. I just wanna see my poor emo red haired better-Anakin please 🥺
Apple’s LotR
It's not like movie theaters where you can look at the box office reciepts and know for sure that a movie was or was not a flop, nothing on streaming ever crashes and burns. Even if literally nobody watches it and the critics pan it, LotR will get a ton of marketing and multiple seasons so that they can claim it was totally successful.
Just let me know when we get a show that starts by making you think it's a GOT spin-off until revealing it's really a Westworld spin-off that takes place in the GOT park
That's the slop I'm waiting for
Hosts get woke, realize feudalism is a bunch of great man theory pigshit, start a robo-revolution :cyber-lenin:, become true breakers of chains, and melt down the iron throne for recycling.
Filipino
I mean, at least people outside of your ethnicity know you exist
regards: Yoruba, Kannada, Igbo, Lingala, and Malayalam (with over 30 million speakers each)
I feel like the most obvious one is Hausa but maybe more people know of it than I would guess
I looked the Valyrian course and 76% of the contributions for that came from David J. Peterson. Who is the guy who made the language for the show so thats cool. Not sure if this is like volunteer contributions or something
Supposedly all languages used to be volunteer at some points but now they're paying professional language people.
I don't think it's that simple. Here in Russia despite attempts at revitalization many national minority languages are sorta dying. Once everyone around you speaks a "universal language" (Russian), which due to its "universality" becomes a language the wast majority of the culture is produced in, other languages naturally start getting phased out, despite attempts to preserve them.
Like I knew Buryatians who couldn't speak Buryatian despite studying it at school. There's no motivation to learn. Everyone speaks Russian.
the non-imperialist version of lingua francais is simply an alternative sent for when communities interact. its not imagined as a replacement for normal language, just a neutral ground to decomplicate internationalism. its much preferred to have a constructed for-purpose tounge than a holdover from or realisation of an empire's hegemony. no nation owns esperanto, the yankees and brits 'own' and imposed english on everyone else
I've heard that Esperanto is mostly based on European languages making it much easier to learn for speakers of those languages than for anybody else.
im not saying it should be esperanto, which is also very old and nobody speaks it. if someone designed a better one there'd be no reason not to use that instead. i defend the concept of a constructed 'universal' language for international communication
im not a linguistics nerd so im happy to burn that bridge when we get to it at the 6th internationale (and cause the 2nd sino-soviet split over it)
Even if you did somehow get all of humanity to agree on and learn a common language it'd start diverging immediately along all sorts of faultlines. region, culture, subculture, professional field, gender, whatever.
Soviet Union kept it's Russian universal though by chosing one standard Russian language for most official cultural products: newspapers, radio, tv.
Due to modern globalization I'm guessing everyone who knows English understands (and to extent can reproduce) the dialect used in Hollywood movies.
I don't get the point of a universal language with things like Google translate. It's far more likely that we'll eventually develop a computer translator that's sophisticated enough to have near perfect translation between major languages and many minor ones as well. The alternative, trying to impose a lingua franca on the world, is fraught with political and cultural obstacles. And there's the ever present question of which language is going to be the lingua franca.
Here's the number of speakers. The first step would be developing near perfect translation between branches of the same family (eg Spanish-to-French, Mandarin-to-Cantonese, Hindi-to-Bengali) and work from there.
If we have to pick a lingua franca, I vote for Singlish. It draws from multiple language families (Indo-European, Sino-Tibetan, Austronesian, Dravidian), is actually spoken in real life, and isn't some cringe Eurocentric fake language like Esperanto.
I don’t get the point of a universal language with things like Google translate. It’s far more likely that we’ll eventually develop a computer translator that’s sophisticated enough to have near perfect translation between major languages and many minor ones as well.
Just a random thing, a woman came into work recently who only spoke Portuguese, but she used Google translate and just spoke into it and we could communicate though it really well. We get a lot of people with no English whatsoever in work, so a tool like that is really useful
It gets worse when neither of those languages are English, because it uses English as an intermediary.
I think these sort of creoles and pidgins that develop further with a lot of different languages is how you ‘create’ a good universal language. People will naturally use whatever pieces that are the shortest or feel best to convey something and the language will develop to be easy to use.
I think English gets pieces of simplification in places where it’s used but it’s a shame those don’t always work back into the source.
Universal translators will be possible and simple as fuck if AI development keeps up for a few more decades. Shit, we’re most of the way there for being able to do so with at least the major languages, language barriers won’t exist, only the benefits from different perspectives and ways of thinking would remain
Idunno I been reading a lot of sci-fi lately lol
Well with Duolingo you have exactly the same chance of mastering either language, which is nil.
People shit on it, but I sort of like it. Seems like a very low effort way of getting familiar with the basics of grammar and a bit of vocabulary.
It's useful for getting a grasp of the tourist version of whatever language you're interested in. "Where's the bathroom?" And so forth.
Unfortunately it advertises itself as a means of becoming fluent in a language (or at least it used to) and that's simply not accurate for 99% of users and it's not a real substitute for text books and other learning materials if you're serious about learning a language.
I regret to inform you that Esperanto has been determined to be white supremacist colonialism.
Mods please add both :esperanto: and :esperanto-cool: on the next update :both-sides:
People always talk about Esperanto or some made up shit instead of actual attempts to implement "universal" language.
Bahasa Indonesia already succeeded in a linguistically diverse country of +200 million people. And this wasn't the imposition of the majority language or the dominant ethnic group's language either
Mandarin in a synthetic universal form of Chinese. Not all people's favorite but it works
the court language of the Ming Dynasty (hence “Mandarin”)
"Mandarin" doesn't derive from Chinese language; it has nothing to do with the word Ming (明）. It derives from Malay language, where the original term meant courtiers or something like that. The eruos transposed this word from Malay speaking areas of SEA and applied it to Chinese bureaucrats.
Filipino isn't a language.
There's tagalong and behind that is illichano. Than a bunch of other languages.Tagalog (/təˈɡɑːlɒɡ/, tə-GAH-log;[2] locally [tɐˈɡaːloɡ]; Baybayin: ᜆᜄᜎᜓᜄ᜔) is an Austronesian language spoken as a first language by the ethnic Tagalog people, who make up a quarter of the population of the Philippines, and as a second language by the majority. Its standardized form, officially named Filipino is the national language of the Philippines, and is one of two official languages, alongside English.
None of my Filipino friends or relatives say they speak Filipino.
Yeah like i said. Never heard any my family or friends use Filipino as a description for the language.
English but less stupid is already becoming a thing as it becomes a pidgin/creole throughout a lot of the world
English with better spelling and easier grammar like Chinese would be alright.
