I love that they reused their long running propaganda that people in socialist countries are like completely ignorant of Amazing Western Technology™. They do the same thing to other poorer people in non-white countries, but with a 'pity' twist instead of a 'look how they've been brainwashed' one.
It was supposed to point out that much of Russia is rural I think, but those soldiers had been to barracks, lol.
Everyone knows the Asiatic brainpan just doesn't have the capacity to coprehend such incredibly novel things as coffee machines or asphalt
i'm pretty sure an antique mosin-nagant costs a lot more than a kalashnikov
would be a bizarre choice to arm your conscripts with those instead of the assault rifles they made so many of that they're found pretty much everywhere on earth in massive numbers
almost as if he didn't think his lie through before he posted itHis "still" was showing "Russian soldiers" with what seem like modernish sniper variants of a mosin-nagant. And I'm pretty sure the photos are actually of Russia-aligned militias with their own rifles.
Love this implication... What does he think a modern sniper rifle is? They haven't changed all that much, just materials and machining techniques but it's pretty hard to innovate the bolt-action all that much...
They haven’t changed all that much, just materials and machining techniques but it’s pretty hard to innovate the bolt-action all that much…
Given liberals and their weird fetishization of shiny technology being an unambiguous good, it's not hard to make the logical gap that "shiny black polymer plastic = more technology" and "more technology = more gun shooting power"
just like a civ game technology works by pouring in science juice
:the-doohickey: just strap some shit together you found in the home depot dumpster and let 40k ork magic do the rest
It's impossible. They're completely impervious to any understanding or knowledge of the guns they fear so much.
the US military's most common sniper rifle in use is the M24 SWS, designed in 1988, but is in reality just a shorter version of the M1917 Enfield with a different caliber, which is the rifle the US used in WW1
I thought the US military used the Springfield and the Enfield was the British rifle?
The AEF (the division of the US Army deployed to the western front) used the M1917, which was a modified version of the British Enfield rifle. The M1917 was often called the "American Enfield." Marines and the Navy used the 1903 Springfield and I'm not really sure why. A professor once told me the army had a different rifle because the Springfield had some kind of different heat treatment on the metal on the receiver and I don't remember why that was important.
The Marine Corps is the stupidest atavism in the military and should have been abolished decades ago.
Finland still has sniper rifles built around the basic receiver of original Mosin Nagants.
i’m pretty sure an antique mosin-nagant costs a lot more than a kalashnikov
Mosins are actually pretty cheap, a few hundred USD usually. :pavlichenko:
And the Ammo isn't too expensive compared to a Lee-En (and if you like to live dangerously a Mosin will probably fire a .303 anyway), though I suspect the Russian situation will change that.
an antique mosin-nagant costs a lot more than a kalashnikov
Not at all. A mosin is worth like 200$, tops. The prices in the US have gone up ridiculously because there haven't been as many rifles available for import. But they're still not really worth much.
Wouldn't be surprised if Russia has more SKSs and older AKs than they have people.
Imagine thinking the Mosin was obsolete by WWII and not literally the MVP gun of that entire war.
Fuckin' Germans preferred to use captured Mosins than their own issued rifles
It was still arguably the best sniper rifle in the world til it got leapfrogged by the SVD in the 60s.
i have a mosin and love it to death but i really struggle to believe this is true lol.
Nazis did tend to use the Mosin but looking into it, it's probably more due to availability of ammo and the fact that they didn't freeze shut like German rifles did
The one's who got the better made Mosins (especially Finnish ones) really did prefer it. But of course the wartime pressures on the Soviet economy made quality vary widely. (that's what happens when you move your factory half way across the country and try to make stuff with completely different steel.)
they didn’t freeze shut like German rifles did
In all situations, an inferior piece of equipment which works is preferable to a superior piece of equipment which is broken.
Thank fuck the Nazi tank industry never learned this.
Video game brain thinking that everyone in the Wehrmacht had an MP40 or some shit.
By the end of the war the Soviets had much better weapons than the Mosin available. They deployed millions of SMGs. meanwhile the Wehrmacht was still mostly using Kar98s and equivalent bolt action rifles.
:pavlichenko:
"I don't always kill Nazis, but when I do I killed 309 of them with my Mosin (TM)"
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Sniper rifles haven't really changed much in the last hundred years. The machining has gotten better, they've added various tricky shit like free floating hand guards, the optics have improved enormously, but the basic sniper rifle is still a bolt action rifle that hasn't changed in basic plan for a century.
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It's called a "tradition", literally every military does it it's not a Russian thing.
The US military must be shit. Look at all the obsolete artillery pieces they leave lying around in their municipal parks.
Bro the browning .50 cal machine gun the US military uses has been in service since like 1920.
Also the M1911, in use by the US military since 1911. John Browning really knew how to design guns. The Lee–Enfield too shows up occasionally in modern situations, designed in 1895, although most who still using it are like guerilla terrorist types.
There's also a lot of copies of the Mauser C96 floating around in the world, still in use.
The M1911 sucks though. People only use them because they have brainworms about .45 outperforming 9mm. Almost everyone uses modern double stack 9mm pistols now.
The M1911 is definitely not a regular weapon in the US military. They probably still have a bunch but they replaced it as the standard pistol with the M9 a few decades ago.
My understanding is that the Marines only finally gave up their 1911 variant in 2018 with the military standardized on the Sig 320.
I think they're just finally getting a credible replacement for the M2 .50cal in the last few years.
Bro at this point just go bald lmao that hairline is FUCKED
It's like a hurricane pattern. Uprooting everything in its path on his scalp.
You think the car, billboard and modern stoplights would've given away this wasn't from the 1800s.
The "point" he was trying to make was that Russians are still using 19th century equipment in 2022.
Obsolete by WW2? Who says it? Last time I checked the USSR humilliated the nazis with Mosin-Nagant as their frontline rifle...
It's more complicated than that. The Soviets did an enormous amount of small arms research and development during the war. But the end of the war they had entire assault companies where every soldier had a PPsH sub machine gun with one 70 round drum and a bunch of 35 round mags. So that's a hundred guys with zippy little magazine fed submachine guns that can put out an incredible amount of small caliber firepower. Meanwhile the German infantry they were facing still had Kar98 rifles with 5 round magazines that fed from stripper clips.
From what I understand in the urban warfare of late WWII it there were a lot of one-sided massacres where Soviet troops with modern weapons just annihilated German troops with their antiquated rifles.
They also had adopted a 10 round detachable box mag rifle by 1938(updated in 1940 to the SVT-40) that was intended for general infantry use, it was just impossible to replace Mosin Nagant production lines with SVT production lines in time.
Similarly the PPSh-41 was technically supplanted by the PPS-43, but it was more practical to keep all current PPSh-41 production lines open, because the PPS-43 was simplified enough for production that factories and workshops that could not have produced the PPSh could instead produce the PPS-43 with no problems.
Also just remembered they had mass produced rifle suppressors paired with subsonic ammunition, which the Germans couldnt rival because they had no rubber to spare.
what does that say about the 1890s tech?
That there is a lot of it lying around, and that rear-area troops who have almost no chance of seeing combat still need some kind of weapon, so you might as well give them an absurdly obsolete weapon that is effectively free.
Seriously, you have to be in a very, very extreme situation to want to use a Mosin on a modern battlefield. They're being used in the LPR and DPR because they can't get enough modern assault rifles to equip their rear area troops. That's the only reason.
American sailors crew the USS Constitution, launched in 1797, and already obsolete by the times of the US Civil War.
